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Re: Tillery Tradition Status
Posted by: kuehbr
on 10/10/17 11:25am
Thanks for the update! One of my favorite area courses and happy to hear that they are putting in the time/money to make that place great again, looking forward to playing it in the upcoming months

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Location: Charlotte, NCAge Group: 25-34
Profile: Avid Golfer (about once a week)Handicap: 5.3

Emerald Lake Golf Club Date: 11/19/17 Sun Morning
Overall Rating: Bad, stay away
Score: 83
Cost: $39
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: 5 Hours
Giving them 1 star for pace of play. Course wasn't that busy, but they sent out a 4-ball and 3-ball of beginner golfers. By the time they finished they were 5 holes behind (and never caught up). No ranger in sight. In addition to slow play these guys were tearing the course up with massive divots, not raking bunkers (even taking practice swings in the sand). If there had been a ranger we could have told him/her to explain how golf works to these beginners (they don't know any better). The course was happy to take our money, and not care about customer service after that.
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Edgewater Golf Club Date: 7/4/17 Tue Morning
Overall Rating: Great course
Score: 76
Cost: $49
Conditions: PerfectPace: 4 Hours
Greens, tees and fairways are still perfect. They just need to fix the bunkers and they would get 5/5 stars.
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Edgewater Golf Club Date: 6/17/17 Sat Morning
Overall Rating: Great course
Score: 76
Cost: $49
Conditions: PerfectPace: 4 1/2 Hours
The only thing stopping me from giving a perfect rating is that the bunkers need sand and the carts have no sand bottles to fill divots with. Good news is that staff told me they are working on both. Apart from that the tees, fairways and greens were all perfect. Great staff in the pro shop as well. This course is in beautiful shape, it is well worth the drive from charlotte.
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The Divide Golf Club Date: 6/10/17 Sat Morning
Overall Rating: Bad, stay away
Score: 74
Cost: $42
Conditions: Poor - significant issuesPace: 5 Hours
First time back at Divide in a while and I was not expecting much, but conditions were still lower than expectations. Course was packed, pace of play was brutal and there was no ranger in sight. Played the blue tees, which were basically at the same place the white tees were. The tee boxes for the regular blue tees were all in disastrous shape. On my first hole I took a massive divot, I wanted to fill it with sand only to find the sand bottles on the cart were completely empty. The practice green was really good but some greens on the course were really bad. This course needs a lot of work still, and it needs to try harder. No excuse for no ranger, no sand in the bottles, and the regular tees are so bad that the course plays ridiculously short compared to its rating. Rather go play somewhere else before you play here, there are plenty of other courses around that value their customers more.
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Carolina Lakes Golf Club Date: 5/21/17 Sun Morning
Overall Rating: Perfect
Score: 77
Cost: $
Conditions: PerfectPace: 4 Hours
Best condition I have seen this course in for a long time. Greens were superb to putt on. Everything else (fairways, sand traps,etc.) great as well. They also have new carts with gps systems in them which was good to see. Will definitely be coming back soon.
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Emerald Lake Golf Club Date: 10/23/16 Sun Morning
Overall Rating: Great course
Score: 76
Cost: $55
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: 4 1/2 Hours
Greens are in awesome shape. The practice green is pristine. greens on course show a little wear and tear from traffic but are superb for the most part. Tee boxes a little beat up but you can see work done on them. Just wish they would add sand to all the bunkers now. Was great to see the new golf shop and the new clubhouse is coming along. $55 is a little pricey but if they can tend to the bunkers it will be well worth it.
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Edgewater Golf Club Date: 2/21/16 Sun Afternoon
Overall Rating: Average
Score: 79
Cost: $49
Conditions: Average - isolated issuesPace: 4 Hours
Unfortunately, for now, Edgewater's best days seem to be behind it. Fuzzy Zoeller has pulled his name off the course, and they are under new ownership. There were tons of divots in the first fairway, and I took a massive one myself. I went to my cart to get sand to fill it, and guess what...no sand on the carts. Every fairway was filled with massive divots as a result, with no way to fix them. Bunkers were looking very orange, they are badly needing a top up of sand. The greens are ok, still roll well, but nowhere close to what they used to be. I fear that Edgwater will struggle to get enough play to support it, and as a result the decline has begun. But I hope I am proven wrong.
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Highland Creek Golf Club Date: 9/6/15 Sun Morning
Overall Rating: Worth playing
Score: 83
Cost: $42
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: 4 Hours
The course itself was in good shape. The greens are beaten up from a long summer, but were still rolling well enough, just a tad slow and showing lots of wear and tear. Traps were great, fairways ok (lots of unfilled divots) but tee boxes were not very good. Fortunately we get to use tees, so who cares. No big problems with the course conditions. What we did have a big problem with is the guy in the pro shop. We played on the sunday before labor day, we showed up to a course that was very quiet, my friend had the 4 for 3 clickitgolf coupon that is valid on weekends, and the guy in the pro shop told him he could not use it because "holiday rates" were in effect. Again, we played on sunday, before the holiday. Come on dude, the course was completely quiet, there were plenty of gaps on the tee sheet, yet this guy wanted to risk turning customers away because the course is being greedy, and wants to milk its customers when the course conditions are not even up to scratch to charge premium rates. To be fair though, in the end the manager was called, and he ok'ed it. But beware when using coupons on a "holiday weekend".
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The Golf Club at Ballantyne Date: 8/2/15 Sun Morning
Overall Rating: Worth playing
Score: 82
Cost: $60
Conditions: PerfectPace: 4 1/2 Hours
So they say the problem with golf these days is it is too long, too expensive and too hard. Ballantyne is a great example of a course that does it's best to promote all 3 of those. It is pricey, even the layout is not spectacular (it is a golf course fitted between an office park). But the kicker was the course set up. The greens roll perfect and lightning fast, so as a result you would expect the pins to be in flat spots, where the ball feeds towards them to make it fun for everyone... Not here. Standing in the first fairway we watched 2 guys 4 putt, 1 guy pick up after his 4th putt, and another guy 3 putt. We got to the green and could see why...the pin was on a ridge that falls away steeply. We all 3-putted and the highest handicap in our group was a 7. Naturally this makes the round long, as on almost every green people were putting and marking, putting and marking. Also the rough was diabolically thick just off the fairway in most places. Strange to see a resort course play so tough. Some of the pin positions were madness based on the greens being so hard and fast. They just need to add the clowns and windmills next time. Otherwise the conditions were perfect, staff were friendly, but it was a debilitating round of golf thanks to the setup.
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Emerald Lake Golf Club Date: 7/12/15 Sun Morning
Overall Rating: Worth playing
Score: 81
Cost: $39
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: 4 Hours
Unfortunately the relentless heat and traffic the course has been suffering is slowly taking it's toll. On some greens it was a sea of unrepaired ball marks. Due to the heat, it seems they keep the greens wet, and the softness means even chip shots leave dents in them. So I really wish people were more diligent about fixing their pitch marks and some others. But the greens are still VERY GOOD and the course is in good shape overall. The staff are always superb here, very friendly in the clubhouse, and the starters are awesome. Makes a really nice start to the round when you feel so welcomed at a course. One disappointment was finding almost all the coolers on the course to be empty, on a near 100 degree day. Hopefully they can do a better job monitoring them and refilling as the day goes on. Bottom line, course is suffering a bit from wear and tear but still great. Let's all do our part to keep it in the best condition possible.
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Emerald Lake Golf Club Date: 6/13/15 Sat Morning
Overall Rating: Perfect
Score: 78
Cost: $55
Conditions: PerfectPace: 4 Hours
The course is in the best shape I have seen it in for years, with lots of work going into it' as well. There are a few temporary tee boxes but the tees under repair look phenomenal. Please please please FIX your ballmarks and divots to keep it looking great. The course staff get an A+ for customer service and effort here. Try get out soon before the heat stresses out the course.
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The Divide Golf Club Date: 10/12/14 Sun Morning
Overall Rating: Great course
Score: 83
Cost: $39
Conditions: PerfectPace: 4 Hours
The greens were easily in the best condition I have ever seen them. It really was a treat to see Divide in such good condition. The course is still a work in progress and is only going to get better from here on out. They have some great deals on clickit, so I recommend cashing in now and giving it a second chance (for those who gave up on it from the Trail Days like I did). Great job Divide, keep it up!!!
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The Golf Club at Ballantyne Date: 8/31/14 Sun Afternoon
Overall Rating: Great course
Score: 79
Cost: $45
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: 4 Hours
Took advantage of the clickit deal and headed out to the Ballantyne resort. The conditions of the course are always great and it was no different this time. Greens were in great condition and rolling fast and true. Even a little softer than I remember them (but still firm). I wish they had more tee options. From the back tees it is around 6800 yards, then the next set up is around 6100 yards. Would be nice if they could a set at around 6500 yards like most courses have. But not a train smash. On a different note, normally myself and my buddies tend to have a problem with the attitude of a lot of the staff here. We have noticed that unless you are a 40+ rich old guy, they tend to get a bit..difficult...with you ( you meaning us younger guys 35 and below). We have all experienced it on different occasions, but in fairness they were pretty hospitable this time.
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The Tradition Golf Club Date: 7/12/14 Sat Afternoon
Overall Rating: Worth playing
Score: 85
Cost: $39
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: 4 Hours
First time back since Carolina Trail exited. I wasn't expecting much, but was pleasantly surprised by the course conditions. Tee boxes were good, fairways were ok, the greens were surprisingly good considering they are 1. bent grass in the middle of summer and 2.Tradition is a muni. They do have some other type of grass on them in some spots, so they can be a bit 2-paced, but they are mostly consistent, and roll well enough overall. No ranger out but we moved along at a good pace. The only disappointment was that there was no beer cart in sight, and it was a scorching summer afternoon with no threat of rain. So they definitely cost themselves some money there. But I recommend supporting this course again as I have always enjoyed the layout (hang on for your life for the first 4 holes...then it gets much easier after that). A good value at $40 or less
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Edgewater Golf Club Date: 3/8/14 Sat Afternoon
Overall Rating: Perfect
Score: 83
Cost: $
Conditions: PerfectPace: > 5 Hours
Hands down the best greens I have putted on in the last 5 years. Smoother than glass. The course was wet from all the rain, but the greens were absolutely, phenomenally, outstandingly perfect. It is definitely worth the drive from Charlotte in its current condition. (Ignore the pace of play as we were playing in a USGA rule tournament with 130+ players and it was cart path only)
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The Divide Golf Club Date: 1/1/14 Wed Afternoon
Overall Rating: Average
Score: 86
Cost: $24
Conditions: Average - isolated issuesPace: 4 1/2 Hours
2 years ago, after dealing with the same old shocking conditions, I swore never to play any Carolina Trail course again. Now that the IRI golf group cancer is out, I will try and support these courses again in the hope that they are restored to their former glory. First time back at the Divide, and I really didn't expect much. The greens were in rough shape, really really bumpy. I think they are supposed to be bent grass, but they look like they have 5 different types of grass on at the moment. They were also really bumpy in patches. They were not bad to the point of being unplayable, but they were not good. The bunkers were horrendous. Luck of the draw to land in one and find it dry/raked/filled with sand. The biggest disappointment to me is that it still appears there is a lack of effort. Case in point, the bunker on the right hand side of the 15th green. 2 years ago when I played Divide, there was NO sand in that bunker, just rocks and vegetables growing. Sadly it was the exact same again. The aggravating thing is that the course does not even go to the effort of at least marking it as GUR. Obviously it is going to take time for these courses to get better, but it starts with TLC from the course staff. Hope they can turn the courses around. For now, don't expect much from these courses for a while.
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Fort Mill Golf Club Date: 3/29/13 Fri Afternoon
Overall Rating: Average
Score: 81
Cost: $
Conditions: Average - isolated issuesPace: 4 1/2 Hours
I have been wanting to play here for a long time and finally got my chance. I loved the layout but the conditions were very disappointing. There were tractor tire marks all over the rough, so any ball not in the fairway would ultimately end up in a furrow left behind by the tractor. At that point it was usually 50/50 whether you could get the club cleanly onto the back of the ball or not. Also, I was very disappointed in the greens. They were very shaggy and slow and every green had a ton of old hole marks still visible that would also come into play. Putts bounced around all day long. Would love to come back here when conditions are better as I think it could be a gem of a course. However it clearly needs a bit of time for them to it back into shape, so I would avoid for a while. Once again though, it is a great classic layout, and I believe this course has the potential to be a star in the Charlotte area once conditions improve.
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Rocky River Golf Club Date: 3/7/13 Thu Afternoon
Overall Rating: Worth playing
Score: 82
Cost: $35
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: 4 Hours
First time I have ever played this course and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Fun, friendly layout, and the back 9 is quite scenic. The greens are hard, but the only time that really caused an issue was on #17 which is exceptionally hard. The rest of them were still pretty receptive to pro Vs coming in high. They were a little bumpy due to a recent aeration but I think they will be brilliant come spring/summer. The guy in the pro shop, Ryan I think, was very friendly and gave me a free yardage book when I told him it was first time playing RR. All round great experience. Wish it was closer to Charlotte but will be back.
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Emerald Lake Golf Club Date: 1/5/13 Sat Morning
Overall Rating: Average
Score: 87
Cost: $30
Conditions: Average - isolated issuesPace: 4 Hours
Biggest issue with the course right now is that some of the greens have many silver dollar sized holes in them. I am guessing it was crab grass roots that they extracted. While the greens should be superb come spring/summer, they are just ok while they go through the healing process now. Might be worth staying away for a while until the greens recover from all those holes.
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Emerald Lake Golf Club Date: 12/8/12 Sat Morning
Overall Rating: Average
Score: 81
Cost: $
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: > 5 Hours
Pace of play was about 5 hours 15 mins. Busy saturday morning, but NO ranger out on the course anywhere to be seen. When you are charging $51 in the pro shop, this is inexcusable. Greens and everything else good. If it wasn't for the slow pace of play and lack of a ranger I would have given them 3.5 stars for course conditions.
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Birkdale Golf Club Date: 11/10/12 Sat Afternoon
Overall Rating: Below average
Score:
Cost: $40
Conditions: Poor - significant issuesPace: 5 Hours
Very sad to see Birkdale in its current condition. The practice balls are so old most of them don't have dimples, the practice bunker was unplayable due to the lack of sand. The practice putting green, as well as every green on the course were saturated with leaves. The bunkers looked like they had not been raked in weeks. Course was packed, but no ranger and the shop at the turn was closed. Round took 5 hours. The disappointing thing is that it appears that little or NO effort is being put into this course. I mean come on, it doesn't take a lot to have someone blowing the leaves off the green. A buddy I played with said he played a muni course in Gastonia the day before and even there they had a guy blowing the leaves off the greens. Apart from the lack of care, the greens were ok. Pace of play torturous with no ranger in sight. NOT coming back here for a long time. Just not worth it. Sad though as I have always loved this layout.
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Regent Park Golf Club Date: 11/3/12 Sat Afternoon
Overall Rating: Worth playing
Score: 81
Cost: $35
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: 4 1/2 Hours
Greens were not perfect but still pretty good. Everything else good. Some of the greens do have bad areas but all credit to the course as they have been marked and roped off and are under treatment. They have put the pins far away from any bad areas so they don't come into play at all. In the pro shop they charge around $67 for a morning tee time which is absolutely insane for this course under these conditions right now. However it is good value at $40 but I would not pay a cent more than that.
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Skybrook Golf Club Date: 9/20/12 Thu Morning
Overall Rating: Bad, stay away
Score: 85
Cost: $42
Conditions: Poor - significant issuesPace: 4 1/2 Hours
Been a long time (2 years) since I last played Skybrook so I was really excited as I remember this fun layout always being in great condition. Unfortunately what I found this time round was shocking. A lot of the greens are having big problems with crabgrass everywhere, and on many greens, it makes them un-puttable. I know the old story that the "Trail is struggling financially" yada yada yada, but this is atrocious. The disappointing thing is that on the par 5 fourth, the crab grass has completely overtaken the front of the green only, but the middle and back of the green are fine. So where do you think they put the pin? yep, in the front of the green, in the middle of the crabgrass patch. That is my disappointment with the Trail, it's one thing to be struggling for money but there's no excuse for just plain not making an effort. The trail staff need to spend the day at Charlotte National to see how to squeeze the most out of a limited budget and how to truly CARE about a golf course and your customers. DO NOT PAY MORE THAN $30 to play this course until they have sorted out their greens.
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The Golf Club at Ballantyne Date: 7/15/12 Sun Morning
Overall Rating: Perfect
Score: 82
Cost: $40
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: 4 1/2 Hours
Managed to play Ballantyne at 9am on Sunday for $40 thanks to the ClickIt deal. Best deal of the year in my opinion. Love this course, hope they keep the deals coming. The course is always in near perfect condition. Tees, fairways, greens and bunkers were all great. A guy even came around with ice towels for everyone to help keep cool. I wish the greens were bent grass though, I find that the greens here can be tricky because of the grain. But don't let their appearance fool you, they are still lightning fast. However the only real issue (small one) I have with this course is that the greens are very hard. Bring your softest, highest spinning Pro V1s if you want to go flag hunting at the back pins.
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The Divide Golf Club Date: 7/8/12 Sun Morning
Overall Rating: Worth playing
Score: 84
Cost: $36
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: 4 1/2 Hours
I enjoy playing this course when it is in good condition as I really like the layout. Another plus is that out of all the Carolina Trail courses, I have always found pro shop staff here to be the most friendly. The greens were all nice and green with decent grass coverage (considering the heat) but a little on the slow side. I have posted this before, but the greens have a mix of 2 different types of grass on them. Most of the greens are 60% bent grass and 40% some type of grainy grass. Unfortunately this can make them really 2-paced. If you have all bent between you and the hole they roll smoothly. But if you hit a grainy patch they slow up quick and bounce around. I found myself having a lot of 3-4 foot 2nd putts because of that fact. The biggest minus about the Divide right now is that half of the traps are almost totally devoid of any sand and play like hard-pan. I was in the right greenside trap on 15 (the worst of the bunch), and literally had to play a pitch shot off my back foot as it was the only shot possible out of there. Fairways and tee boxes were ok, I didn't expect them to be good because of the heat of late. To summarize, a fun course, but I would not drop more than $35-$40 right now to play here.
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The Divide Golf Club Date: 3/11/12 Sun Afternoon
Overall Rating: Average
Score: 82
Cost: $
Conditions: Average - isolated issuesPace: 4 Hours
I am not sure if their greens are supposed to be bent grass or bermuda, because there is an even covering of both types of grass on every green. Seems like the Bermuda is taking over though so a lot of the greens are really bumpy in the areas where the 2 grasses meet. Had a lot of putts that got knocked off line in our foursome. Having said that, they still roll pretty well if you have a highway of one grass type between you and the hole. Fairways were ok and tee boxes also fine. I love the layout of the course, and had a fun round despite the bumpy greens. However, I would not pay more than $40 to play here.
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Emerald Lake Golf Club Date: 10/23/11 Sun Morning
Overall Rating: Worth playing
Score: 83
Cost: $32
Conditions: Good - normal wear/tearPace: 3 1/2 Hours
Greens were pretty good considering some of the others I have seen lately. They weren't the best condition I've seen them in but still rolling pretty true. Fairways and tee boxes were ok as well. Nothing to complain about there. The only gripe I have with Emerald Lakes, as always, is that they charge $6 for a small handfull of range balls. Most of which are lacking dimples. I also noticed a lot of divots on the course and when I reached for my sand bottle on my cart, both were completely empty. Not doing themselves any favors there!!!
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