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Re: Emerald Lake   B-Man at 8/11/08 2:27pm
Jamie -- good observations. If you read my last review, you'll see I had the exact same opinion of the #9 green. It's unfair and a shame, since it's a great hole otherwise. I also agree on #18 vs. #9 as a finishing hole. I inquired about this years ago when they switched. At that time, the pro shop attendants said that #11 (previously #2) was causing groups to back up early in their round, since it is such a tight driving hole, with the driving range to the left, and has a difficult uphill approach. To eliminate this pace of play problem, they switched the nines. I always felt like they should make #9 a par 5, which would make the total par into a 72, rather than the current 71. But I guess that's not a cheap change to make.
Waterford   John at 8/10/08 10:29pm
Played 8/9/08. The fairways were in pretty good condition. The greens rolled mostly good and were pretty fast, but the appearence was poor, lots of ball mark spots, a big fungus (black-dark green) problem, and some of the greens either were beginning to have a crab grass problem or when they overseeded the fairways with bermuda earlier this summer they got careless and hit some. But for $35 on a Sat it was a steal. All in all I enjoyed the course.
Emerald Lake   Jamie at 8/10/08 1:38pm
Played Emerald Lake yesterday (8/9/08), and it seemed in good shape. Greens were rolling well, and the fairways were very consistent. However, one mystery still remains after all these years. Every time I bring a friend there who is not familiar with the course, I hear the same comment about #18. "Man this is a lousy finishing hole", they say. When I point out that the two nines were switched several years ago, they are usually dumbfounded. Like me, they cannot understand the reasoning for that. Hole #9 (formerly #18) is a great finishing hole, although rumor has it that the green was constructed backwards (it slopes AWAY from to back towards the lake, making it virtually impossible to approach in two with a long iron or wood) The green will not hold anything longer than about an 8-iron, depending on where the pin is cut. This green design and the switching of the nines has always mystified me. I have asked a few guys at the pro shop, buy they don't know the story behing it. If anyone does, please feel free to elaborate. I'm really curious, mainly since most folks feel I'm sure that #9 was a much better finishing hole.
Highland Creek   George at 8/8/08 11:10pm
Played HCGC today, and boy--were the greens in bad shape. Quick, but cut up and pocked all over, and on pretty much every green.

Another annoying thing is that the bunkers are: 1) of differing types of sand; 2) either all rocky and pebbly; or 3) rock hard since no one's working on them (or most of them anyway. Why that is, is just unbelievable. It's a common thread on this board...poor bunker maintenance. The old saw about not being in them is no excuse--they should at least be raked at the start of each day, and not have big rocks, plastic sheeting, and other crap sticking up out of them.
Re: Visiting Mint Hill, Nc   Jamie at 8/8/08 7:26pm
Olde Sycamore is likely your best bet. The greens there are usually very good.
Visiting Mint Hill, Nc   Jim at 8/8/08 7:31am
I am visitng Charlotte and want to golf next Friday 8/15. looking for a nice golf experience near Mint Hill area..I am considering Charlotte National, Emerald Lake, Charles T Meyers, Larkhaven or Old Sycamore Golf Plantation . I am a 16 handicap and enjoy fast true putting greens...
thanks for any input.
Twin Oaks (statesville)   Rob Pappalardo at 8/6/08 7:23pm
I notice you haven't had anything on this course.It's a great value $29 with cart on the weekend.The greens are in pretty good shape but it has patches of crabgrass in the fairways.Still its nice not to fight the "weekend" crowds and you get out in the morning and have the place to yourself.Definitely worth the money.
The Divide   Rob Pappalardo at 8/6/08 7:18pm
Played last week 8/2/08 ...Fairways nice..Greens pocked up from irons into them...Still overall not bad. I think this course is pretty easy. It's pretty much wide open and short. Nice course to score on.
Springfield   J.D. at 8/4/08 3:28pm
Played last week and have good/bad news. Good: Fairways and bunkers. Bad: Greens -- eaten up and there's some strange looking, large bee that is digging holes in several of the greens...which means it may take a while for the greens to recover.
Deer Brook   Jamie at 8/2/08 2:06pm
I played Deer Brook in Shelby today (8/2/08). I don't play there very often because it's a long drive, but it sure is worth it. What a terrific course for the money. $50 on Saturday morning, and one of the best conditioned courses I've seen in a long time. Beats any daily fee course in Charlotte. It's worth the drive, and it gets surprising little play for the caliber of course it is. I would highly recommend it.
The Divide   Jamie at 7/26/08 1:56pm
Played The Divide today (7/25/08). The greens were slow again - I see a trend there. I don't know why they will not cut them to be faster. Maybe it has something to do with the heat during the summer. Very strange to have to really pound the ball to get it to the hole. Unless you have a downhill putt, you'll need a bazooka. I hit 13 GIR, 0 birdies. I probably left 10 birdie putts short of the cup. I once left a 15-footer 6 feet short. Next time I'll use a driver to get the ball to the hole!
Re: The Divide   Datkin at 7/25/08 7:35pm
Played Thursday (7/24) Greens are a little beat up, but overall its in good shape. It was very wet Thursday.
The Divide   Paul at 7/24/08 9:27am
Anyone played the Divide in the last few days, weeks, or so? what kind of shape is she in?

I think we are playing it this weekend, and I never have played there before. Any tips ("besides keep it in the short stuff"), blind shots, etc?

Thanks!

Paul
Golf Tournament   Lake Norman Kiwanis at 7/22/08 12:52pm
The Lake Norman Kiwanis Club is hosting a Golf Tournament
When: Friday, September 12, 2008
Where:Birkdale Golf Club in Huntersville
Time: 9 AM shotgun start
Format: Captain's Choice

Breakfast & registration at 8 AM
Entry fee covers golf, beverages, hors d'oeuvres and award ceremony
Three hole-n-one contests!
Golf registration: $95 per golfer
Sponsorships are available. Please contact Robin Noud @ rnoud@primepay.com
Register by check. Send to
LKN Kiwanis Golf Tournament
c/o Robin Noud
8425-P Streamview DR
Huntersville, NC 28078
OR REGISTER ON-LINE
http://www.golfdigestplanner.com/6722-KiwanisGolf2008

One shot?   Keith at 7/21/08 6:32pm
I'm going to be in Charlotte for just a couple of days -- Any recommendations if I'm able to play only one course?

I'm staying downtown and will need to take a cab, so it can't be too far away. Also, will be playing Sunday am and need to be done in 4.5 hrs or less. Regarding price, around $50 is ok. Finally, I'm a 12 handicapper and don't want to get beaten up too badly.

Appreciate your recommendations!
GPS   Biggie at 7/20/08 5:37pm
Does anyone have a list or know where to find a list of which courses have GPS?
Sunset Hills   skoorb at 7/17/08 8:37pm
B-Man, just discovered your site and it's awesome. Thanks for the great resource, which I will be sure to check out before my next trip to Charlotte. Anyway, has anyone played Sunset Hills? Did it used to be called something else? It appears to be affiliated with the Myers course as part of Ratcliffe Golf Services. It's definitely got the right price, but I'd be interested to read anybody's thoughts/feedback.
Z golf fitting   Jeff at 7/16/08 4:21pm
Hi, Anyone have any experience with Z golf custom fitting at Ballantyne or know of any good club fitters in the area?

Thanks for any responses
Recent Play   Elsupremo at 7/16/08 2:25pm
3 July - Played Warrior for the first time. Pretty impressive. Course was in great shape, greens, tee boxes, everything. Well worth the drive. Playing partner walked on and shot four over, the annoying b@$t@rd.

4 July - Olde Sycamore - Was in it's usual immaculate shape. Of the 30 or so public/semi-private courses I've played in this area, I think this is the nicest and also the most difficult.

5 July - Tega Cay. Second time I've played here. I think it's a very nice course but it is another one that doesn't believe in bunker maintenance. I've noticed that about several courses in the area.

12 July - Skybrook - Played here several times and it's always in great shape but it's also one of those courses that could use a little more bunker maintenance. It is on the Carolina Trail now but not part of any of the packages. Not sure what the deal is there.

13 July - Stonebridge - Nice course but it is a haul from Huntersville. Again, bunker maintenance. How hard is it to go in, turn over the bunkers and rake them smooth. I don't get it. I know, I know, if you don't hit into them you won't have that problem. Whatever.

Playing Pinetuck on the 18th and Eagle Chase on the 19th. I'll write up something about Pinetuck next week.
Thanks B-man   James at 7/6/08 7:12am
B-man - Just wanted to let you know that I really find this site to be a valuable resource. I got in touch with you several months back, and I like what is happening with the site. It seems that the amount of feedback is increasing, which I find fantastic. Thanks for your efforts.
Re: Springfield   B-Man at 7/3/08 10:15am
On this topic, I'd echo Jamie's comment. If a course has gotten overpriced and the conditions don't live up to their billing, you play elsewhere. There are some 25+ courses listed here on this site and there are plenty that I need to add from the surrounding area (within 1 hr drive). Quite often, I go and have a bad experience at one place and don't go back until I hear a good report from someone else. I've done that at Charlotte Golf Links, Larkhaven, Charles T, and Renaissance (still haven't gone back), to name a few.

Cost-wise, between Clickit and twilight rates, you can keep it down. If I have to play on a weekend morning, I usually stick with a coupon deal or an Eagle Chase, Charlotte National, Monroe CC, or Charles T and keep the cost under $50. I rarely pay more than $50 for any round in town. And if I do, you can be sure I expect a lot of the course and they will hear about it if things aren't cool.
Re: Springfield   Jamie at 7/3/08 7:15am
Yep, it's all based on the laws of supply and demand. The courses will charge whatever people are willing to pay. When play starts to diminish, rates will come down. If play increases, rates will increase. As long as gross revenue is stable, the prices will be whatever the market will bear. The most popular time to play is Saturday morning, and that's true for me. That's why all courses offer discounts, EXCEPT for Saturday morning! There is a lot of research performed by course management to determine rates. That's a long-winded way of saying that you can either pay or play somewhere else.
Re: Springfield   paul at 7/2/08 2:06pm
I just sat here and read through some of the posts...now I must bear in mind that not having a lot of rain cannot be a good thing for golf courses, and I do not know how many have their own wells for watering and such...
but what I do know is Springfield and many of these other courses rates have gotten insane. I called Renaissance the other day and with the new ownership group, their rates have gone up as well. Then I see the course, and I am thinking "how can you charge this much for that?"
I am a young lad, so perhaps some of you are well-established, making the big bucks, etc....but when I read many times over several of the "nice" courses in Charlotte are not being taken care of, yet I go to their site and see 49 bucks for their normal mon-thurs rate, i just get saddened. I love Springfield, have many times said it is one of my fave courses around here, no doubt, but I have not played there in a long time due to the price increase (nice clubhouse...GREAT!! but i would rather pay in a trailer and play for less, but that is not reality). Bottom line is, if courses are going to charge as much as they do, there has to be a way to hold them accountable, but I am not sure what it is, because when it comes to it, I am still addicted to golf, and will end up paying somebody so I can get my fix.
I definitely try to make use of all the clickit, ezlink, etc. sites as well, but perhaps you all understand. oh well, i will stop complaining now.
Springfield   Jamie at 7/1/08 7:19am
Played Springfield yesterday. It's in pretty good but not great shape. The greens were a little slow and rough, likely due to too much play and not mowing. I've never seen the greens there that slow. Some looked like they had recently been aerated. I'd give it a B+.
Re: 3 Courses this past weekend   James at 6/28/08 11:01am
I agree - the greens at Rocky River couldn't be any slower. For me, it takes the enjoyment out of the round. Additionally, I think their tee boxes are in poor shape. It's a shame, b/c this course has such a great layout.

6/22 - Played at Olde Sycamore. This used to be my favorite until Carolina Lakes came around, but I still love it. It was in great shape, quick and fair greens, and a good test of golf. Sign up for their online discounts - some decent deals can be found.
regent park   andy browning at 6/25/08 3:38pm
played course on 6/20/2008. Fairways in good shape. Only problem is the militant b#%&*! owner who doesn't know the first thing about PR or customer service. I'm not quite sure what her problem is, but she acted like Regent Park was Augusta National. I won't be back because of her abrasive attitude.
3 Courses this past weekend   Elsupremo at 6/25/08 8:26am
Played three courses this past weekend:

20th - Rocky River - I hadn't played this course since last July. Course was in pretty good shape but the greens were sloooowww, slowest I've played here in Charlotte.

21st - Eagle Chase - First time here. Course is in pretty good shape. Very hilly fairways but no "bowls" to hit into like many mountain courses. No frills in the clubhouse but that doesn't matter to me. Well worht the drive from Huntersville.

22nd - Highland Creek - Very dissapointing. Fairways are OK. Tee boxes need some work. The greens are horrendous. I'm pretty sure that there is a local rule that forbids fixing your ball mark on the green. They were the worst I've ever seen them.
Re: practice areas   James at 6/22/08 8:10am
Another great area to practice if you live near north Charlotte is Birkdale. Though it is usually very crowded, they have a nice large range, and a fantastic area for practicing your short game complete with 4 flags on a large chipping green. You can hit up to 30-40 yard shots.
Highland Creek   J.D. at 6/16/08 8:21am
Played this weekend to see if this course lives up to the hype as "the best on the Carolina Trail." It doesn't.

It's a decent layout (reminds me a bit like Regent Park), the fairways were in decent shape and the bunkers were soft. But the greens were just so-so. It appears nobody fixes ball marks here and in a few spots there were medium chunks of dead spots in the middle of the greens. My biggest gripe -- the GPS system was way, way off in several spots on the course. (Once it told me I had only 150 yards to clear some fairway bunkers. I blasted a solid drive that landed in them...some 250 yards out. If my eyes were younger I would have noticed!)

I continue to be under-enthused by the Carolina Trail course maintenance. It seems the management team is more interested in getting frequent play on these courses than they are about adding a little polish. A shame, because Highland Creek, Charlotte Links and Waterford could be spectacular courses, with a little more care.
practice areas   geof at 6/10/08 12:06pm
Regent Park has a nice practice area if that's closer for you. Not so much for bringing a shag bag, but a nice practice bunker, big putting green, separate chipping green, and the course is usually pretty nice as well


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