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|Course conditons||Kevin at 3/26/10 11:12pm|
|I'm bringing a group of 8 golfers down to the Charlotte area from Canada in mid-April to kick off our golf season. handicaps in the group range anywhere from about 7-20+. At this point we're planning on playing Westport, The Warrior, Fox Den, Verdict Ridge, Skybrook, Olde Sycamore, Meadowlands (near Winston Salem) and Tanglewood's Championship course. Any feed back on what the conditions on those are like (and likely to be in mid-April) would be apreciated? We've played several of the courses last year (Westport, O-S, Meadowlands and Tanglewood will be new to us so I'm especially intersted in comments on those). Thanks|
|Charlotte National||TP at 3/25/10 7:02am|
|Just wanted to post that Charlotte National has aereated their greens. Looks like it had just been done. If you call ahead Vic and Robby will let you know how they are filling in. Lots of sand on them right now.|
|Carolina Trail Courses 'Recapitalization'?||B-Man at 3/22/10 3:22pm|
|Got this press release today:
THE IRI GOLF GROUP ANNOUNCES RECAPITALIZATION OF EIGHT PROPERTIES
I.R.I. Golf Group Chairman, Jeff Silverstein, announced today the restructure and recapitalization of eight properties. The properties include seven in North and South Carolina and one in Texas. The North and South Carolina properties include: Birkdale Golf Club, Charlotte Golf Links, Divide Golf Club, Highland Creek Golf Club, Skybrook Golf Club, Tradition Golf Club and Waterford Golf Club. The Golf Club at Twin Creeks in Allen, Texas, a suburb of Dallas, was also included in the recapitalization.
The restructure entailed the raising of new equity and a modification of its debt agreement with Textron Financial. Silverstein said, 'We are very pleased to stabilize this group of clubs and the company is rolling out a number of new programs to improve the customer experience.'
In what was described as the most difficult environment he has experienced in his 30 year career Silverstein said, 'I.R.I. is now positioned to operate in a more stable environment and is confident that the company will be able to use its current platform for growth in the future.'
This can only help the courses, right?
|New to Charlotte||Don at 3/21/10 8:11pm|
|I'm looking for suggestions for my new "home" course. Especially interested in a Saturday morning regularly scheduled game based on handicaps and/or Stableford or modified Stableford. Any suggestions appreciated.|
|piney point & badin golf club||panthersfann55 at 3/20/10 4:04pm|
|b-man if you haven't tried either of these courses i would recommend. badin is on the other side albemarle and piney point is at the south end of lake tillery. i live in matthews and used to play charlotte national a lot. but since they are starting to get overcrowded and have consistant SLOW PLAY (infamous fivesomes)i choose to make the hour drive to play these courses along with eagle chase. they both have websites. badin has bermuda greens (2 were in need of some help but the pin placements made them playable) and we are playing piney point thurs (greens were fast last time so i'm looking for the same). clubhouse staff are great at both. rates are reasonable ($25-$30), layouts are challenging, and if you get on the e-mail list they will send you discount coupons. just giving some new ch! oices for you to enjoy.|
|Re: Aeration - Surprise Surprise!||B-Man at 3/13/10 9:42am|
|Thanks for the note, Jamie. I sent your note on to TJ Congleton, head pro at Emerald Lake, and he sent me the reply below. I also went out last Sunday and played the front 9 with TJ. I found the greens to be in very good shape, considering the recent aeration. I think the staff there did a great job making them very playable so soon after aeration. The greens were fairly quick, the sand did not alter putts significantly and the holes were completely filled. So I understand they weren't perfect, but the conditions were not bad, especially considering the reduced weekend price.
As for your suggestion that I send out questionnaires for local course managers to respond with aeration and condition updates, that's a GREAT idea. I have a few friendly contacts with several courses, but I could use any help my readers can provide as far as introducing me (virtually by email is fine) to local course managers that you know. I can definitely send out regular emails or letters to get maintenance schedules or special condition updates. Thanks for the suggestion.
Here's TJ's note about Jamie's experience (note that I withheld the name of the other course):
We have just hired a new Assistant that came over from [another local course]. I just talked with him about this, and he said that he was instructed at [the other local course] to NOT TELL anyone when they were punching. I have told him about our policy of telling everyone when they call that we have punched (even before we did punch) but, he might have let one slip. I take full responsibility for this. I may have been outside, or not in the shop. If I had been inside, I would have stopped him on the phone, and made sure he did actually tell them that we had punched. I have talked with him about this as soon as your email came through.
It is a fine line when it comes to telling people about aerifying greens, but we do feel that it is very important to be upfront and honest with people so that we do not encounter issues like this one. I know how it would feel (I have been in that position before) to get to a course, pay your money, and go to the first green to find they are punched. It is not fun, so coming from this stance, I know that it is very important to tell everyone that you have and be honest with them from the start.
If you want to test it, give us a call, and make a tee time. I guarantee that who ever picks up the phone to make your time will give you our typical breakdown of what’s going on... “We did punch Monday and Tuesday, using a small pencil tine, which is the reason for the reduced rate, but I assure you that the greens are in fine shape, they have been cut, top-dressed, and are rolling fine.”
|Governors Run ??||Tricky at 3/13/10 1:21am|
|curious to see if anyone has played it?? My arch-rival keeps bragging about it...in Lamar S.C.|
|Aeration||Biggie at 3/9/10 11:04am|
|There is a section on Click it Golf entitled Course News that lists some information about aerations...|
|Aeration - Surprise Surprise!||Jamie at 3/7/10 12:51pm|
|Let us rejoice folks! I was once again hit between the eyes by another aeration surprise. This time it was Emerald Lake. I called on 3/2 to make a tee time - the price was $45. I get there Saturday and the price was $35. I asked why the difference, and you can guess the reason - they just aerated 3/1. They told me one thing over the phone, and another when I got there. Needless to say the greens did not putt well, very bumpy and sanded over. My playing partner asked them why they did not inform us of the aeration, which was unusually early this year. His answer was, and I am not joking - "we have been told to not inform people about it; if they specifically ask we will not lie and will tell them, but we never voluntarily reveal that type of information." What is the best word to describe this? ! How about ridiculous.
I was thinking that it might be a good idea to assist BMAN by suggesting an addition to this site - a short questionnaire or course conditions request to be sent to each course quarterly. Hopefully the superintendents would respond with updates on course conditions and aeration schedules. Hey it's just a thought. Opinion BMAN? Thanks.
|course conditions/good choices?||early_teetime at 3/3/10 2:01pm|
|While enroute to Myrtle Beach a buddy and I are going to play a Charlotte area course on the way down, and another on the way back. I'm looking at Regent Park (have played there once and liked it) and wondered what kind of shape it's in. I'm thinking on the way back that we'll do Red Bridge. I know it's fairly new, but looks nice (at least in the pictures). Just wondered what current conditions are like (we'll be there March 26th) and if it's a good choices. We're about a 6 and 8 handicap respectively and just want scenic but challenging course. Would you recommend Red Bridge or should we look at something else?|
|Re: Group Trip||Hossnfeffer at 3/2/10 11:56pm|
|Thanks for the tip on Fort Mill, we are now looking at Springfield. Regent Park is aerating when we are going to be there.|
|golf||jeffo53 at 2/25/10 11:25am|
|I will be in Charlotte around the second week of April. We would like to play two rounds of golf before going on to Santee. Any suggestions of what golf courses to play|
|Re: Local Golf Leagues||@golfmage at 2/16/10 11:12am|
|Kyle, be ready to lay out some cash. There are several local Charlotte amateur "tours" offering buy-in games, points, and prizes and not requiring more than an hour or two of travel time. The leading sites are PickUp18.com, CharlotteGolfTour.com, and AmateurGolfTour.net. I've played all three, but I'm keeping my opinion to myself as to the quality of play, the level of service, how they are run, handicapping, and overall type of players. Let's just say they are different leagues, and one may be better than another in terms of what you are looking for in a golf game. Have at it and good luck.|
|Current conditions||Jeff at 2/13/10 3:43pm|
|Hi, I'm going to be in Southport area for 4 days 2/15 thru 2/18, are the courses in shape or snow covered. will i be able to get in a couple rounds.|
|Local Golf Leagues||Kyle J at 2/10/10 9:55pm|
|Does anyone know of an open golf league? I'm not ready to join a course, but would love to play regularly in a semi-competitive manner. Thanks|
|Re: Group Trip||Geof at 1/29/10 10:54am|
|if you are driving down after round, u can also consider Regent Park & Springfield...both off I-77 near the state line/Fort Mill area....Regent has a couple of tricked up greens but is overall a good track..Springfield is a GREAT but fair test overall....also down in Rock Hill there is Waterford..it was designed by Hale Irwin...it's a couple of minutes off I-77 in SC at exit 79 (kinda behind the Mall)...I think if you play Fort Mill CC you'll do better $$$ wise, and the front nine is great shape and a vintage Donald Ross design, but i'm afraid the back nine may disappoint a bit...|
|Re: Group Trip||panthersfann55 at 1/26/10 7:57pm|
|pretty neat course not too hard not too easy. they redid all 18 greens last year or the year before. make sure to ask about airifying. a lot of courses around town do it twice a year.|
|Re: Group Trip||Hossnfeffer at 1/24/10 11:41pm|
|After looking at some others, I was thinking of Fort Mill Golf Club, as sort of equivalent to Tanglewood.
Any thoughts on this place?
|Group Trip||Hossnfeffer at 1/24/10 8:48pm|
|Big group trip to Hilton Head in the late March. 12 guys, handicaps probably average 15 or so - with some single digits lots of teens and maybe one or two guys with 22+.
Planning a stop-over play day in the Charlotte area and looking for a place to play 18 or 36 holes before going on down to Hilton Head. Our criteria:
Fair play - not too easy, not too hard (it will be early spring and many of us will maybe have hit a few balls at most). Just something nice.
Fair price - we used to play Tanglewood in Winston-Salem every spring. It was fun and was about $45 bucks on a Thursday I think. So something similar I suppose.
Easy to get to. We dont want to search all day for a course or a decent place to stay. Plus when we are done,! we are gonna finish the drive down to Hilton Head.
I have been doing a bit of reading and at first I thought about trying Tega Cay because of the 27 holes, but it sounds as tho it is no fun for first timers. I played ballentine once, and the course was ok, but not for the price.
|Re: upcoming golf trip||panthersfann55 at 1/10/10 4:35pm|
|- charlotte national is reasonable priced and a good golf course for all levels.
- monroe golf club (redid their front 9 greens last year). fun course to play.
- larkhaven overseeds but always call ahead for green info (very inconsistant).
|Re: upcoming golf trip||TP at 1/8/10 7:02am|
|A little unknown gem that alot of people don't know about is White Plains in Pageland. Not overly long, very well kept and manicured and excellent greens. Kind of out of the way but very much worth the drive.|
|Augusta!||Todd at 1/7/10 11:09pm|
|There are several Augusta hotels that you can find for cheap. Why not take him to the most beautiful place in the world? It is right around the corner!
|upcoming golf trip||tom chmura at 1/6/10 11:15am|
|I am planning a weekend golf trip with my 16-year-old grandson, whose golf game borders between beginner and average. I am looking for some information on well-conditioned golf courses that are not too difficult for him to play. In the past, I have played Charlotte Golf Links; however, I believe that one may be too difficult. We're only planning on staying for 2 nights, and play 2 rounds. Thank you for your help. Blessings,
|Play Skybrook for $25||B-Man at 12/16/09 7:14am|
|Last chance at my Clickit voucher for Skybrook. I don't want it to go to waste so now I'll sell it for $50 - that's $25 a player. This is for 2 rounds of golf at Skybrook including cart and it's good any day, any time through the end of the year.
Email me if you are interested.
|C T Myers||Anthony at 12/4/09 8:39pm|
|I've been playing C T Myers for a while now and this course is going down hill fast. It seems that they care more about building a teaching facility and a par-3 course than keeping up the golf course. Wonder who's getting kick-backs from all that money being spent? Ther are still empty bunkers that have been that way since the middle of the summer and several of the greens have more bare spots than grass. This course used to be a nice place to play, but it's not worth the money anymore and that's a shame. CT Myers could make alot of money, if they would just keep up the golf course and not the managing company!!!!!!!!|
|Edgewater||Jamie at 11/30/09 6:57am|
|I have been trying to play new courses lately, and I had heard some good things about Edgewater in Lancaster. I played Friday (11/27) and was pleased at what I saw. The course is a haul from Charlotte, and is literally in the middle of nowhere, but it's a good layout with very nice greens. It will take some getting used to - I hit what I thought were several good approach shots, only to have 60' for birdie. I three-putted four times from long range; the greens are huge, with some tough contours. And several elevation changes present challenges for club selection. Overall I was happy with the course. The greens rolled very true, and the course design presented some unique holes. It's a course that will take a few rounds to adjust to, but it's a good one.|
|For Sale: Skybrook voucher for 2||B-Man at 11/25/09 4:24pm|
|Once again, it looks like I won't be able to use a Clickit voucher before it expires.
I have a voucher for Skybrook that is good for 2 players anytime, any day through the end of the year (12/31). I paid $70 for it ($35 per player).
Make me an offer. I don't want it to go to waste.
|Regent Park||James at 11/17/09 7:43pm|
|For some reason this course had been off my radar for years. I'm not sure why, as I was unbelievably impressed with the conditions and layout during my round on Saturday. I took my dad there who was visiting from Buffalo, and he was blown away, saying it was his favorite of the four we've played here (Stonebridge, Carolina Lakes, & Verdict Ridge were the others). Of note, the course handled the 4" of rain rather well. Though it was cart path only, it wasn't a swamp out there, and the overall conditions were impeccable. We paid 4 for $179 for an 8:40 tee time on Saturday, which I would say is a steal.|
|Red Bridge||Jamie at 11/16/09 6:57am|
|I finally played Red Bridge Saturday 11/14. I had heard a lot about the course, so my buddies and I gave it a shot. A lot of comments posted on this board about the course are very accurate. We played from the tips - not advisable unless you are a low handicapper. I'm a 2, and I still shot 83. My brother and others friends are low to mid 80's golfers, and they both shot 92. Local knowledge is critical on this course, and if you have not played it before, you are at a big disadvantage. There are a lot of tight shots to fast, difficult greens, not to mention long forced carries, mainly because we were playing from the blues. There are also several blind shots that can catch you off guard. After 4 inches of rain, the course was very wet, and it likely played over 7000 yards in reality.
Overall a good layout, with an unusual variety of holes. I liked the uniqueness, but admittedly it is very difficult for the reasons I mentioned. There are several par 4's that would play like par 5's in these conditions for shorter hitters. There are also several areas staked as OB that make no sense, making some long par 4's that much more difficult. When I know the course better and it's dry, it will not be too bad, but I will have to bring my A game to shoot my handicap.
|Verdict Ridge||Jamie at 11/9/09 4:05pm|
|I cannot believe I failed to practice what I preached. I posted a note a few months back about always asking about aeration when you call to make a tee time - REGARDLESS of the time of year. I called last week to schedule a tee time at Verdict Ridge. I get there today (11/9) with my brother who came up from Columbia just to play this course I was raving about. I first played Verdict Ridge 10 years ago when they opened and have not been back until today. Usually too expensive for me, and quite a drive. We get to the first tee, and I notice the #1 green looked a little light colored from a distance. I thought hmmmm that's weird, but did not think anything about it. I hit a great tee shot, then hit a wedge to the front section of the green. I get to the green and to my complete shock, they are aerated and sanded, apparently very recently.
I have been mad on the golf course many times, but this was more than just anger, it was extreme disappointment. I have been talking about this course to my brother for years, he finally comes up to play it for the first time, and this is what we get - surprise surprise!! I somehow managed to hole two long birdie putts, but it was mostly luck.
To all the course management or maintenance that frequent BMAN's site - you have got to find some way to warn golfers about adverse or unusual course conditions. When players call to reserve a tee time, could you please update them on things such as aeration or temporary greens? I really don't think that is asking too much. Hint - treat potential customers the same way you would want to be treated if you were calling.