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Verdict Ridge Golf & Country Club


"Great course"

6/29/20: Review by RT

Verdict Ridge always delivers. Course is in excellent condition everywhere. Great layout. Quick pace of play.

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This is an interesting concept for a golf tournament being played on multiple courses - including Red Bridge and Pinehurst Resort - on multiple days to give participants the flexibility to pick their course and day. Check it out:

THREE RIVERS LAND TRUST
SWING INTO SUMMER VIRTUAL GOLF TOURNAMENT

Event Date Range: June 20 – June 26
Format: 4-man Captain’s Choice
Virtual leaderboard maintained and updated throughout the week long tournament
Multiple courses from within our 15 county territory will be participating to allow golfers options of time and location. This will give players flexibility regarding scheduling tee times, and the ability to socially distance !

while participating.

Registration: https://threeriverslandtrust.org/swing-into-summer/
Select the course and tee time that you would like to play throughout the week
$400 per 4-man team
Courses available include:
Pinehurst 1 – Pinehurst, NC
Pinehurst 5 – Pinehurst, NC
Red Bridge – Locust, NC
Corbin Hills – Salisbury, NC
The Revival – Salisbury, NC

Benefits to players:
The 1st and 2nd overall teams, as well as the winners of the 2nd and 3rd flights, will win tournament prizes.
The entry fee for the tournament also grants you a Three Rivers Land Trust year-long membership.
All proceeds will go directly towards local conservation efforts in the North Carolina!

Piedmont and Sandhills.

For more info!

rmation, contact brian@threeriverslandtrust.org or call (704) 647-0302.

All I know is that their conditions typically reflect a $25-$30 course and their AM rates for tomorrow (Friday 6/20/20) are $60-$73 dollars, Not sure if they are still charging and extra $7 to ride alone or not. I assume they are trying to make up for cancelled and/or other loss of revenue for weddings, receptions, etc. since they've focused on those events rather than course conditions. Ask me how I feel...
One other thing to note about Emerald Lake's rates now that they've left GN is that they've introduced dynamic pricing. You will see prices for tee times vary depending on the demand, available slots, time of day, etc.
I was told by a teaching pro there that they are going to put together an area in the vicinity of #9 green (#9 will be a par 3) and #1 tee where people will hit into a net. Kinda behind #9 green, or so I understood.
Would really love to know where else on that property someone thinks they could build a driving range.
Saw this a few days ago giving a slight update on Re-Development at Birkdale, confirming that the current driving range and practice area (which is a nice one) will go away. The article notes that development work could begin by year's end.

"The driving range is right where the expansion project is, so the range, along with its high protective fence, will disappear” said Principal Town Planner David Peete. Peete noted, however, that the owner could build a new driving range in the future, though that’s not currently in the plans."

Birkdale Moves a Step Closer to a Mulligan
They also have Tobacco Road at number 40 among the "Courses You Can Play." That list is a joke.
IM4DHERD at 6/17/20 12:41pm
I earlier praised the Golfpass/Golfnow membership as a huge money saver. I've saved an average of just under $60/month with their free round promo code that member get, or got. If anyone else is signed up, be aware. Got an email outlining what looked like an additional $10/month code that could be used any day or time on Hot Deals. Turns out this $10 code REPLACES the free round code. My $99 annual fee was returning $700+/- dollars, now only $120. They say it is due to all the increased weekday play with the pandemic and it might change back, but if you are a member you might want to disable auto-renew and check back when due to determine if it is worth it.
Saw this email come in last week and I've heard many folks complain about TeeOff getting bought by GolfNow:


"After a long relationship with GolfNow, we have decided to part ways. Emerald Lake Golf Club will no longer have tee times available on any third party website. Some of you may have even noticed that GolfNow.com is showing that our course is closed, which is inaccurate. We are open for play!

The lowest rates available (including our Daily Deals) can now be found exclusively on our website"


Courses are finding that they can manage their own tee sheets now. I wonder if that's recency bias though -- with the heightened play due to golf being allowed during the pandemic.
I still see a need for tee time aggregators, especially for last minute golfers like myself. When you don't care where or how much but just need to quickly see which courses have openings, these aggregators are very helpful. When you have to go to each course's website to check for openings, it might take you 10 minutes to find one.
North Carolina Golf Panel's (whoever they are) Top Fifty You Can Play in NC. CLT is not well represented with only Rocky River listed. Top 6 are all in Pinehurst and you CAN play them, but...

NC Golf Panel Top 50 Courses You Can Play
Charlotte keeps growing exponentially, so area courses get more and more crowded. I find it worthwhile to drive out of the area sometimes. For instance, played Cleghorn yesterday and from the time I left home to the time I got back was just less than 5.5 hours, 3 or so of that driving. I also find the rates for the quality of courses are much more reasonable. For instance, Emerald Lake - a $30 course now charging $62 on Weekday mornings. Depending on what side of town you live on, these might be some not already listed on this site that could be of interest...

Olde Beau is listed here (80 miles from Huntersville) but you pass Cedarbrook on the way up...Same exit off I-77. Some of the best greens in the state

Clemmons, NC area - Tanglewood championship course has gone through a renovation and is in fantastic shape. Site of the 1972 PGA. Has a second course as well, the Reynolds. Salem Glen (Nicklaus design) is also a great course as is Oak Valley (Palmer design) nearby in Advance, a bit closer to Charlotte.

Tot Hill Farm in Asheboro (75 mins for me) is worth the drive once in a while. Mike Strantz designed this, he also did Tobacco Road. It'll beat most anyone up, but a lot of fun.

60 mins from 485/77 is Cobblestone Park Golf Club in Blythewood, SC. 27 holes of great golf with elevation changes you wouldn't expect in the middle of the state. Fantastic shape and deals available on Golfnow.

Been meaning to try Silver Creek Plantation and Marion Lake in the Morganton area, about the same distance for me as Cleghorn. Also Grandover Resort up Greensboro way. If willing to drive that far, there are also Forest Oaks, The Cardinal by Pete Dye, and Oak Hollow in High Point, another Dye design. I hear Winding Creek in Thomasville is nice too.
Got out to Cleghorn yesterday for the first time. I see why people like it. Great layout and other than getting through Shelby it's wide open 4-lane just about all the way there. Same amount of time from Huntersville as is Tillary Tradition or Edgewater. Certainly the feel of a mountain course in the foothills. George Cobb design (Quail Hollow, East Lake - Atlanta, Sea Pines, etc.). In great shape except for a lot of areas that look like there is/was some sort of grass fungus or something? Wide green fairways then an area of brown. One tee box had virtually no grass. Greens are beautiful but slower than they look. They were top dressing them, which I think they might do most Mondays (as does Warrior) so might not have cut them over the weekend. All in all well worth the drive. Also note the price: after 2PM Mon-Thurs $25, $21.25 if pay online.
My annual interview with Charlie Nance of the "Taking Dead Aim" podcast for 103.7FM is up now. Download and listen to us discuss my Top 10 List of the Best Public Golf Courses in Charlotte (see article link here on the website):

Taking Dead Aim - 6/8/20
I updated my Top 10 list for Charlotte Agenda and the new list was published yesterday. I use a lot of the feedback I see on my site here as well as my own experiences. A few changes since last year has Rock Barn shooting up to #3, Skybrook in at #8, and Red Bridge (conditions) / Stonebridge (Skybrook moving up) falling out. Verdict Ridge is still #1.

Thanks for the support everyone!

B-Man Ranks the Top 10 Public Golf Courses in Charlotte for Charlotte Agenda
Chris,
New site update looks great. Love the modern 'floating' look to the site elements!
The B-Man at 5/19/20 11:47am
Hey everyone - as you can see I've been busy during this quarantine. I just launched the new design of the site today and would love your feedback.

This new version, long overdue, should be easier to use and navigate, especially on a mobile phone. I've refreshed as much of the course information and photos as I could -- I've been playing *alot* this year -- but I have even more to add in the coming weeks.

As many of you know, I've run this site since 2002. So it has almost two decades worth of course reviews and forum posts. All of this information should be at your fingertips now with a searchable Forum and handy sort and search features on the Courses and Reviews pages.

Help me out by posting your own course reviews or sending me feedback on courses I haven't listed yet.

Let me know if you have suggestions for how I can help make the site even better. As my tagline says, it was built "For the golfer, by the golfer".

Also, feel free to reach out to me here or on Instagram if you'd like to play a round with me. I love playing with folks that use the site.

And please, spread the word and share the site with your friends and fellow golfers. You guys have helped make the site what it is today!

B-MAN
HittOD at 5/5/20 5:42pm
Last played Cleghorn in late Oct. 2019. Always enjoy this course. Greens were dormant, yet still very nice. This course gets a high rating on Golfadvisor.com for good reason. Was considering a group trip for two rounds in one day, from the Lincolnton area before virus hit. As I recall, not much in the way of food selection except snacks. I recommend this course.
IM4DHERD at 5/5/20 12:36pm
Seems there used to a a bit of discussion here about Cleghorn Plantation golf club. Anyone been out there in a while? Been driving out of the area to avoid the crowds and thought I'd give it a shot.
And they're back! All 4 Leroy Springs golf courses re-open May 1st with the typical COVID-19 social distancing rules -- Fort Mill, Springfield, Lancaster and Chester Golf Club.

Springs Golf - COVID-19 Policies
Here's the full notice about Tega Cay reopening May 1st. Note that the Cove 9 holes will be walking only for now.

Tega Cay Re-Opens May 1st
Tega Cay is re-opening on May 1st.
In the dropdown, scroll all the way down to 'The Golf Club at Ballantyne'
IM4DHERD at 4/19/20 1:26pm
Signed up last April for Golfpass and am renewing today. Three of my buddies have signed up as well, too good a deal to pass up. For the $99 annual fee, you get a monthly coupon code good for a "Hot Deal" tee time on Golfnow (Mon-Thur, After 12N. I've used 4 of them, playing Ballantyne and Olde Sycamore each twice, and saved $211 over the rack rates for those times. Still have eight left...Use those on Ballantyne only, with a typical $63 rack rate, and that's another $496 in savings.

You also get a dozen Taylormade balls, a $35 retail value. For some reason or other, I got two more dozen over the first year, another $80 worth.

There are other rewards...I got a $25 reward credit last week for booking during a promotion period a! nd have another $30 in rewards in the bank for using Golfnow over the past year. In all, it looks like I've rec'd over $380 in benefits BEFORE the other 8 tee times I haven't used. It might be hard to not get $750 worth out of that $99.
Ballantyne is still open and in really good shape right now. I went to post a review, but it is no longer in the drop down menu to do so?? Expensive, but there are ways around that...see my next post.
IM4DHERD at 4/16/20 9:59am
Westport is definitely not a golf trip destination course.
Highland Creek has closed their range and putting green. The course itself is still open.
The hits are coming fast and furious now... all Leroy Springs golf courses have shut down effective today. That's Springfield, Fort Mill, Lancaster and Chester Golf Clubs.

Statement from Leroy Springs:

"Despite the precautions we have taken, many of our staff positions conduct transactions with the public which have been difficult to isolate. As a result, we have made the difficult decision to suspend operations at all four Springs Golf courses, effective the end of the day today (April 1, 2020). Maintenance operations will continue."
Tega Cay is closed as of 3/28.

According to their website, Mooresville is open for walking only.
I played Westport last weekend. Course is in OK shape from tee to green. Some teeboxes are sparse, but others are fine. Fairways are decent. There are some thin areas. Greens are quicker than they seem. Don't know when you are planning on coming down, but this course always greens up in summer.
If you don't like to wail away with driver every hole, then you'll like the layout at Westport. I will use driver on 4 or 5 holes max during a round. There isn't much water that comes into play (save the first hole; don't tee off without taking a look down the hill at the pond). There's quite a few doglegs, along with a driveable par 4 (#15).
You can usually find a discount tee time that makes the course worth it.
I've collected updates from most of the Charlotte area public courses that have posted them. Please add if you have more current info. For now, I know of only Mooresville that has closed temporarily. All others remain open with several changes enacted (these are common at most courses):

· Leave flagstick in – some using cup fillers or raised cups (Ballantyne, Eagle Chase, Emerald Lake, Olde Sycamore)

· No bunker rakes

· No ball washers

· No water coolers

· Bathrooms closed

· Driving range stations further apart

· Tee times spaced out further, no shotgun starts

· Some – K! iosk check-in or pre-paid rounds only – no cash

· Some – no trash cans

· Some – no sand bottles

· Some – 1 person to a cart or walk only

· Some – designated walking hours (Olde Sycamore)
The B-Man at 3/23/20 12:51pm
Actually, I've also never played Westport. Whenever I ask someone who has played it whether I should add it to my site, they kinda shrug. So I haven't had a reason to check it out. As Kyle mentioned, Verdict Ridge is top notch (rated #1 in my Top 10 list last year). There are also a couple good ones on the other side of the lake, including Skybrook and Tradition.
KyleSmith at 3/23/20 12:47pm
Honestly can't say I have played it. B-Man himself can probably give you more tips than I can.

I wanted to drop a line and say that Verdict Ridge right around the corner is one of my favorites in the area. Can play a little tight, but good value for the conditions. At least it was last year...
USSOCCERFAN90 at 3/19/20 11:25am
Hey guys, I am coming to the Charlotte area with some buddies for a golf trip and I was wondering if anyone had anything to say about Westport Golf Club? Any insight you could give me would be much appreciated.

Thanks
BetterThanMost at 2/19/20 3:11pm
The new front nine greens/course improvements, including new cart paths are set to open on March 8th.
BetterThanMost at 2/19/20 3:09pm
I wouldn't say it's the most walkable course in the world, but you do see some people do it. It's not so much the elevation changes as it is the distance between holes.
Mike W at 2/13/20 8:43am
How walkable is Old Sycamore? Some courses are easier to walk than others because of elevation, distance between holes, etc

Thanks!

Mike

Not sure the link below will work but you can Google the Golf or Gourmet Package at Kiawah if it doesn't. Here's the deal: You get a very nice one-bedroom villa with pull out sofa for $200. That's $100 each and includes a round of golf on (in order of what I think is best to worst) Cougar Point, Osprey Point, Turtle Point or Oak Point. Add $50 each to play on the Ocean Course,the #4 public course in the US and which has hosted the PGA, the Ryder Cup the Sr. PGA and the World Cup. On the Ocean Course, you must employ a caddy and a $100 tip is suggested.

Went last year and it was the best $450 I ever spent - 3 rounds, including the Ocean Course, and three nights lodging.

Kiawah Gourmet Escape
Tot Hill Farm isn't really near the others, unless you are going through the Asheboro area on the way there or back? About an hour from the Pinehurst area. Same designer as Tobacco Road. Mad Scientist, very unique course.
Played Tobacco Road about 3 weeks ago. Love this course, one of my favorites and it was in fantastic shape. Talamore has always been good when I played it but it's been awhile.
Honestly, the fact that you even posted this question means you take your handicap and the rules of golf more seriously than probably 75% of those golfers that keep handicaps. Cheers to you. You are meeting the spirit of the rule, in my opinion. The handicap rules were made for clubs where members could police each other. So if you are not a member of a club, there's less scrutiny anyway.
Looking for opinions. I work for myself out of my home so I can blow out for 18 most anytime. The USGA rules say to not post a round to my handicap unless playing with at least one other - peer review thing. This is one rule I break all the time. I firmly believe that when playing with others there is more pressure to "cheat" than when playing alone. "That's good, pick it up" / "hit a mulligan" / "roll that away from the tree", etc. I might pick up a putt within in 10-12 inches when on my own, but when playing with others am invariably told to pick up most anything within 3-4 feet. Many even just whack my ball back to me before I even know it. I keep a more honest score when playing alone AND I have more scores posted to make my handicap a more honest measure of my ! abilities. Otherwise, for instance, I played 13 of my last 20 alone. Typically more than that on average.
IM4DHERD at 10/30/19 12:36pm
Thinking about taking a weekend trip here and playing 2 of the following courses: Tobacco Rd, Tot Hill Farm, Southern Pines and Talamore. Has anyone had any recent playing experiences with any of these courses? Any courses other than these that you would recommend ? Thanks
Played Larkin today and was told they now have a camera on the par 3 #2 hole. Make a hole in one and get $2500 and a copy of the video! Got home and have an email from Stonebridge (sister course) saying they are starting a hole in one contest on #15...Pay $5 and win $10,000, $10 wins $20,000.
The B-Man at 8/30/19 11:15am
I'm playing Skybrook tomorrow and will post a review this weekend.
IM4DHERD at 8/30/19 10:51am
Skybrook re-opening for golf Aug 31,2019. From their website - "We are doing so many things it’s hard to list them all. But follow us on social media to find out what’s happening. New Owners, New Mini-Verde Bermuda Greens, Clubhouse Renovations, Cart Path Repairs, Trucks of New Sod and Much More. Click on any of our social media sites or YouTube Videos to see everything that is being done to make Skybrook Golf Club THE premier semi-private club in the market. We can’t wait to show you the results at Skybrook Golf Club!"
IM4DHERD at 7/31/19 10:27am
The Club at Irish Creek, private place in Kannapolis with a Davis Love III designed back nine, has a member for a day program. Link is on their website. Well worth the effort to sign up and the $45 fee with cart.
The B-Man at 7/14/19 11:25am
That's absurd. I play there once or twice a year just to check conditions. I live 3 minutes away and drive by it several times a week. I'm not sure The Divide was ever a must play even in its heyday. Nevertheless, there's no way it's achieved that (again) yet. It will take a few seasons of dedicated effort just to make it regularly playable in my opinion. Over the last 2 years whenever I've played there the conditions have ranged from goat track to decent at best. While I've seen steady improvement the past few times, it's a slow return to playability not a meteoric rise to must play status. My advice is, play a casual round there when it's convenient and see how it is, but don't plan a serious round expecting it to be great.
IM4DHERD at 7/14/19 11:15am
The Carolina Golf Journal, the newspaper-like publication found at vaious courses, has an article stating The Divide is "Returning to 'must play'status". I always enjoyed the layout, but haven't played it since 2016. Was disappointed then and this was after avoiding it for 6 years prior due to poor conditions. Anyone play out there lately?
Know several members at Skybrook and this is pretty much my "home course." Change is going to be great for this course. Pinnacle has committed 1.5 million to the renovations over the next few years. Greens are converting and drainage is going to be addressed (thank God).
Another summer, another bent grass course closing to switch over to Bermuda. Got word today that Skybrook Golf Club in Huntersville will be closing next week to switch to a Bermuda Mini-Verde hybrid. While they are closed, they will be addressing other areas including some renovations to the clubhouse. They plan to re-open on Aug 30th.
To be phased out. Holes 1,2 and driving range to become a "Town Center" area. Holes 3, 4 a park, hole 5 a buffer green area between further development and a neighborhood. Rest to be office space, retail etc.

Ballantyne golf course to transform into new urban center
IM4DHERD at 6/8/19 9:35am
Wanting to see if anyone else notices, and/or if any club management reads this page and might comment. Last two rounds (Larkin, Springfield) there hasn't been a red or yellow stake or line anywhere on the course. I've noticed the same elsewhere but cannot remember exactly which courses. Certain areas, even without water, can or need to be marked because they are simply punitive. Without a drop option, it slows down play and adds strokes and distance. This is why there are not longer "Water Hazards" but "Penalty Areas" that the Committee can put anywhere. The Rules allow for relief if an unmarked area meets the definition of a hazard, but it'd be nice to have some indication of the borders and what your options are, red v. yellow.
IM4DHERD at 5/16/19 9:46am
Just a quick plug for the Carolina Golf Association. The CGA supports amateur golf in the Carolinas. They run the course ratings programs, maintain the handicap system, run tournaments, provide turf and agronomy services to area Clubs, etc.

For those who are not a member of a Club providing one, membership is one way to obtain a USGA handicap. There are others, some free like The Grint app, but a $40/year eClub membership not only supports their efforts to make our game better but provides other benefits as well.

CGA members are eligible to participate in One-Day individual and four-ball tournaments, often on courses we can't otherwise play. Local ones this year are at Northstone, The Club at Irish Creek, the Jones Course at Rock Barn a! nd Red Bridge. Many other desireable courses such as The Olde North State Club, Country Club of Asheville, and Cliffs courses. Also, members get invitations to play other private courses. I just bought two rounds at the Country Club of Salisbury, a classic Donald Ross design, for $40 each. Usually $95 for a guest to play with a member, the only other way to get on the course.
The B-Man at 4/22/19 10:14pm
I received a note from Jody Saunders, the GM at Lincoln Country Club, about a Demo Day. Check it out:

I'm the GM at Lincoln CC and thought your readers might be interested in our demo day coming up on Wednesday, May 1 from 3-7 p.m. We will have reps on hand from Bridgestone, Callaway, Cleveland, Ping, & Taylormade. Anyone wishing to be fitted can reserve a time by calling the golf shop at 704-735-1382 ext. 0. Walkups are welcome, but those that reserve a time will be given priority.
Brian at 4/16/19 12:09pm
Does anyone know of a clone club retailer and fitter here in the Charlotte region? Thanks.
Reid at 4/1/19 6:56am
I live in Marvin. Any idea of weekday shootouts (points system)? Closest courses are sun city, Ballantyne, and fort mill... maybe Lancaster. Looking to join a group of men that enjoy friendly shootouts
In case any of you missed it, I wrote this article ranking the top 10 public golf courses in Charlotte (all of which are listed on the site) for Charlotte Agenda. I've already gotten lots of feedback and welcome your comments.
This article about possible re-development of Birkdale Golf Club (that includes saving the course) was in today's Charlotte Agenda e-newsletter: Birkdale

I don't think the new ownership understands what brings golfers to a course. Great service, conditions, a fair price and a good layout are what brings repeat business. You can have all of the hotels, shops, restaurants, and whatever else you want, but if the course isn't good, then people won't play it.
There is a 9 hole Wednesday night league that runs April-October at Ballantyne Resort. There are a few other courses in the area that have dogfights/leagues once a week on various days. You're best bet would be to check out the websites of courses close to you for more info on their particular leagues.
jaydee at 2/5/19 11:11am
Somewhat new to area, would like to know if there are any golf leagues on the area courses. Also does anyone know of a couples golf league in area.
thanks
Monroe Country Club is doing the exact same thing. Closed till Tuesday morning to prevent winterkill. There are likely many other courses following suit as most area courses have switched to Bermuda greens over the past several years. Judging by the number of courses that have struggled with winterkill and had to close these past few years, I'd say this is a smart precautionary measure.
That makes sense, but the low temperature tonight is forecasted to be lower than the low temperature on Saturday night, yet they are going to open for a while on Saturday morning.
Carl spackler at 1/18/19 7:47am
Bermuda grass greens do not tolerate cold weather well. The high temperatures each day don't matter but the overnight lows are cold enough that they need to cover the greens.
Per their Twitter feed, Rocky River is closing at 10:30am on Saturday and will re-open at 9:00am on Tuesday due to impending cold weather. According to what I can see, the high for Saturday is 60°, Sunday is 51°, and Monday is 41°, so you're guess is as good as mine.
Tubby at 11/27/18 11:55am
Forgot to mention that bunkers and cart paths need a bit of work but for the price this course is an excellent value.
Tubby at 11/27/18 11:14am
Played Lincoln CC last week. Best greens I've putted in a long time anywhere. Fairways were good. Tee boxes ok. Good test of golf and fun to play. Only negative was cart path only.
Message on the Highland Creek website says they are re-opening on Friday, 11/23. All greens have been interseeded with A1/A4 bentgrass. I just don't understand closing for two months to put more bentgrass on greens, when every other course in the area is switching to some type of bermuda. They are also touting 'unprecedented re-opening values,' yet their prices are still too high for the course conditions.
Rob glaz at 11/18/18 7:10pm
Got out to catawba creek the old gastonia municipal read some reviews didnt get my hopes up but i couldnt find anything wrong enjoyed it thoutghly perfect greens fast small fairways and tees good..it reminded me of lancaster and monroe, does anybody know if donald ross had anything to do with the front 9? Alot of his design features on the front 9 greens
In case you missed this message, here's the final note from Larkhaven Golf Club:

As many of you already know Larkhaven Golf Club has been under contract to sale. The final day of business will be Sunday, December 2nd. We would like to thank everyone who has supported Larkhaven for the past 60 years. It has been a golf course that many of you started playing when you were just a kid and have gone on to make many memories here. Come out and help us celebrate the final few weeks of Larkhaven!

We will be having a sale in the pro shop to help clear out merchandise. Everything will be sold at cost starting today. That is a savings of 25% on all merchandise.

Thank you again for all the support!

>Larkhaven Staff
Highland Creek sent a letter to its members this week that it is closing October 1st in an attempt to fix the greens. However, the letter did not say for certain whether the course will re-open. It simply said, "We will monitor progress and make a determination later in the fall whether reopening the course is a viable option."

I'm not optimistic. Courses usually have a definitive plan to replace their greens (typically with Bermuda) when they reach this age and condition. HC's letter does not say they have the funding or support to replace the greens. So this sure sounds like the end of the line for what was once one of the more prestigious public tracks in Charlotte, in my opinion.
Deacon Blues at 9/18/18 8:32am
Does anybody know how Charlotte-area golf courses fared during the storm? Any damage that could disrupt or prevent play this weekend?
KyleSmith at 9/3/18 4:33pm
Eric at the Golf Studio at Northstone is the best I have seen in the area (limited knowledge on my part though, honestly). Northstone itself is private, but the Golf Studio is open to the public for lessons. Probably not the cheapest, but will be worth it for sure.
IM4DHERD at 8/17/18 1:40pm
Searched the Message Board for "Lessons" and "Instruction" and see nothing newer than 3 years old. I desperately need a tune up, maybe an overhaul. Curious to read reviews of area pros ... figure it might be a good thing to have on this site. I live in Huntersville. Seems some had good things to say about Kent Sonnefeld? Anybody try Jason Lilly at Emerald Lake?
BetterThanMost at 7/29/18 8:13am
Warrior is reopening on Friday, August 3rd for public play. You can now make tee times on their website.

Revival/Crescent is dealing with some issues on their greens due to a bad batch of chemicals they got earlier this season. They are interseeding their greens with Pure Distinction bent grass, but are still open for play. Additionally, they have cut down several trees around the 3rd green, and are laying sod to bring it back to its original size. If you've played the course, you know the 3rd green has been a problem for several years, so it's good to see that they are remedying it.
hey Brett, you should come out and play with the charlotte chapter of the MGA. we play once a month for a big check and trophy.
As promised, here's the link to all the capital improvement work that Ratcliffe Golf has planned for this year at Charles T Myers, Harry Jones and the Sifford Course.
Charlotte is not the only Carolina golf market affected by the harsh winter. Over ten courses in Myrtle Beach are closing this summer to recover from winterkill damage. More details here. .
Warrior is also closed as they switch the greens over to Bermuda. Work started the week after Memorial Day.
Add Charles T Myers to the list of courses closing for some time this summer. They are replacing their greens with bermuda, just like Charlotte National. So they will be closed in July/Aug.

Help me keep track of the courses closing for some time this summer:

Springfield
Mooresville
Charlotte National
Charles T Myers
Larkhaven (permanently)

Did I miss one?
Mooresville is currently using 3 temporary greens and will close on June 11th for the remainder of the month to complete repairs to the course.

Got this email from Springfield Golf Club today: "We have experienced severe winter kill on several of our greens due to the past winter. We have closed the golf course until May 26th to address these issues. At that time, the back nine of the course will reopen with two temporary greens. The front nine will remain closed to allow the greens to heal and the new greens to establish.
We greatly appreciate your understanding and patience while we work diligently to restore the course to the standards we all expect."
Hey there, recently moved to the area (just outside of downtown Charlotte) and would like to get involved in a weekly league. I'm a decent player (+15 handicap) , looking for something thats not going to break the bank. Any suggestions for something in the area?
Rob glaz at 5/5/18 8:47pm
So highland creek is still crap? I got the entercom golf pass hoping those courses would be in better shape after the managment change
CHRISTOPHER BUHSE at 4/30/18 1:47pm
Played there on 4/29/18 and it was in such bad shape. Even if the green fees were free, it would not be worth it. It's a shame as its a great layout. Conditions are horrible and don't see them improving without a lot of time and money.
Yeah, it's kind of funny that after all of the hullabaloo over the Jeff Silverstein/CGT debacle, and then the dividing up of the courses amongst different management groups, the six surviving CGT courses have all ended up back under the same umbrella (Pinnacle) again. I've played four of those in the last year, and they've all been meh as far as conditions go. I haven't heard great things about the other two (Skybrook and Birkdale), either. Personally, I'm not optimistic.
MGOBLUE at 4/21/18 6:30am
I just saw where GolfNiners5's posted a review on April 14th. Not looking good at all. There was an article in the Carolina Golf Journal that Highland Creek was now part of Pinnacle Golf Properties along with other former Carolina Trail courses. I hope they can restore this course to it's glory days.
Unless you're getting a really good rate, I wouldn't pay what they are asking to play there on a Saturday.
Thinking about playing there this Saturday , April 21. Has anyone played there recently and if so what were the course conditions? Thanks.
I think you're thinking of Greenbriar Hills, which was near the airport off of Old Dowd Road. My dad played there in the 60s and 70s, and my brother and I would tag along sometimes. I don't remember when it closed, but it was no longer around when I moved back here in the late 80s. Hope this helps!
Although I rarely play Larkhaven (the indifferent staff), the #1 Par 4 is unlike anything else in the Charlotte area.
It looks as if Larkhaven will soon go the way of Eastwood, Crystal Creek, Charlotte Golf Links, and other former courses that are now housing developments:

Charlotte’s oldest public golf course is set to be replaced by a housing development
kuehbr at 10/10/17 11:25am
Thanks for the update! One of my favorite area courses and happy to hear that they are putting in the time/money to make that place great again, looking forward to playing it in the upcoming months
They have reopened the course for play. Here's part of an email the club sent out regarding current conditions:

Golf Course Update!

Anyone that has played since we have opened knows we have had a slow growing season for our new greens and they have not quite fully grown in. To improve this and give our members and guests a better playing experience we will be Sodding in all the areas that have not grown in within the next 2 weeks.
We will also be overseeding all of our tee boxes next week with Rye Grass to give them a good coverage for the fall, winter and spring. New Rakes, cups, flags and flagsticks have been ordered to inhance our facility and we exepct those to be delivered next week.
The ownership and managem!
ent are committed to do everything we can to create a great experience for our membership and we appreciate your patience through this process.

It does look like they do not have a website any longer, although their mobile website is still active, but not current. It also appears as if they aren't on any of the tee time services any longer, either. Published rates are $38 on weekdays and $45 on weekends. Twilight rates are $28.

Also in that area, Badin Golf Club closed suddenly at the end of August. Little to no information is known as to the future of that course.
kuehbr at 9/29/17 10:08am
Heard Tillery was putting in new greens this summer, are they open for play yet? I can't seem to find their website either...
Worth the 1 1/3 hour drive from Charlotte. Superb, fast, true greens. Lush fairways. They offer substantial discounts on-line. Downside, small greens, the cart path is extremely rutted, bumpy, falling apart. So is the ground near the path. A LOT of dry, rock-hard clay surfaces.
This is an extremely slopey track. 90% of shots are on a slope. But, I like that kind of thing.
I'll be back.
The B-Man at 8/16/17 5:00pm
Eagle Chase in Marshville.
LukeDuke at 8/16/17 4:53pm
Hi Fellow Golfers,

Hoping to locate a track in the Charlotte area that offers zoysia fairways to prepare for a tourney in a few weeks.

Thank you in advance.
GinMillDJ at 8/16/17 9:04am
Has anyone played Red Bridge recently? Wondering what kind of shape the greens are in with all the heat we've had. Thanks!
i found this during a google search

John Sagi

Greg, I've created a golf course website and a golf course coding system that has every known golf course, including past courses and courses that have changed name or merged. It also includes golf associations, unions, clubs, etc. The only way to activate the personal pages are through my personal search engine on my website.

I would be interested in any and all information and images that will help keep Sharon Golf Club MA-0437.

http://golftracer.com/golfclubs/Nc/NC_0437.html

GolfTracer's - Golf Clubs & Code Numbers - Sharon Golf Club - NC-0437


Read more here

Gid at 8/1/17 9:09pm
I need help from a Charlotte golf old-timer. In around 1980 I played a nine hole course somewhere off Wilkinson Blvd. I can't come up with its name. Do any of you remember it? It was not Sunset Hills, Oak Hills, Pawtucket or Revolution. Can anyone tell me the name of the course I'm thinking of?
Shawn Oberreiter at 7/28/17 10:08pm
Hello,

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BetterThanMost at 7/20/17 8:49pm
For anyone who is interested, Larkin's 10th hole will be reopening for play on July 28th. The club has been using only 17 holes for the better part of the last year while houses were built around the 10th hole.
I couldn't agree more. I was wow'ed today when I played it with a Verdict Ridge member on a reciprocal. It was a nice day and just made the holes adjacent to the water look stunning -- see the photos on my @charlottegolfer Instagram account. I may add it to the site just because...
Played in a tournament at Irish Creek yesterday, oh my word, one of the most beautiful golf courses I have ever seen (and I have seen a lot). If this course was closer to Charlotte it would be one of the premier courses in the area. Has some of the best golf holes you will ever play. It is a private country club but they do offer "be a member for a day" and you can play it for $49. Do you yourself a favor and GO AND PLAY THIS COURSE. Best kept secret in all of North Carolina.
TheClaw at 5/23/17 12:12pm
Add Carolina Lakes to your list. Right now it is in perfect condition.
I would say either Red Bridge or Rocky River based on current conditions. I've heard promising things about Skybrook, as it was in really rough shape last year about this time. New management sounds like they are working on making improvements. Tradition is what it is. Will never be in great shape, but may be in good shape. Don't know much about Glen Oaks.
DrSchteeve at 5/10/17 11:03pm
Haven't been back to Charlotte since leaving 3 years ago. Plan to play:

1) Eagle Chase
2) Verdict Ridge
3) Olde Sycamore

After that, possibles include Red Bridge, Skybrook, Rocky River, Tradition, Glen Oaks, Mostly interested in best conditions, since I know all courses very well. Any info or suggestions appreciated.
TheClaw at 5/3/17 3:23pm
Generally a par 72 with a rating of 72 means that for a scratch golfer (0 handicap) the course plays to its par.

But if the course is a par 72 but has a rating of 69, it means that if a scratch golfer shoots level par 72, he effectively played 3 over his handicap. As 69 is really "par" for that course because it plays easier than the 72 on the scorecard suggests.

Same as if the par is 72 but the rating is 75, it means the course is 3 shots tougher than the par suggests.

Slope applies to a similar rating for bogey golfers (instead of scratch), read more here:

http://www.leaderboard.com/abcs.htm

So if you like to play "easier courses" choose courses with ratings well below their par. Conve! rsely if you like to play tough courses, choose courses with ratings well above their par.
Skools64 at 5/3/17 2:06am
I'm in my Mid 20s and wanted to see if anyone can explain to me what rate and slope means. I never seem to understand it

I play Carolina National a lot and the rating and slope are
69.8 131

Does a rating below 72 mean the course is harder. The higher the slope is the more challenging the course is? I.E. Bunkers Water

My friend told me the average Slope is 121 but in his own opinion he won't play anything below 125. Then when it comes to rating he won't play anything 70 or above.

Are those good bench marks or is he way off?

Thank You for the help.
I think this depends on several factors: What part of Charlotte are you moving to? How far are you willing to drive to play? What part(s) of your game make you a high handicapper? Do you spray the ball or are you not a long hitter? Do you struggle on fast greens, etc. In the SE Charlotte area, I think Charlotte National and Charles T. Myers are probably your best bets, as they tend to have wider fairways. National also has relatively flat greens. In the SW Charlotte area, you would probably want to look at Renaissance Park. In the NW Charlotte area, Sunset Hills is probably your single best bet within the city limits for what you are looking for. Wide fairways and slow greens should be appealing. At 6,028yds from the tips and a slope of 118, it's neither long, nor difficult. T! hey also have a nine hole par 3 'learning course' that is an option as well. If you're inclined to travel a little, there are two courses in Salisbury less than 5 miles apart, McCanless and Corbin Hills, that are less than 6,000 yards from the whites, and carry slope ratings below 120. Neither course has bunkers, either, which is often appealing to higher handicap golfers.
Bill at 4/26/17 11:34pm
Hello. I'm moving to the Charlotte area soon and was wondering if anyone could make a recommendation as to which public course might be a good choice for a high handicap golfer. I would prefer a course that's not too crowded. I don't hit the ball all that well and don't want to hold others up (or embarrass myself too much). Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated.
For anyone who ventures out to Albemarle to play Tillery Tradition, they are regrassing their greens this summer. The course will close on July 5th as they switch from Crenshaw Bentgrass to MiniVerde Bermudagrass. They anticipate reopening on Labor Day Monday.
Jackson at 4/19/17 2:26pm
I sent the complaint in SC and I was allowed to play my two rounds now, worked for me. Didn't seem like a scam. At least they are holding them accountable.
JoeJag at 4/6/17 2:58pm
I got the same email. I asked at the course I played this past weekend about the email. They told me that clickit owes them A LOT of money, is refusing to pay, and is now obviously trying scare and diversion tactics to take away from the real facts. sounds like the new owner is a bit of a scam artist and has done this before
Mike at 3/26/17 11:07am
I got this today from Clickit Golf.


Hi Mike,

You are receiving this notice because we believe you have paid for at least one voucher for golf and were either refused play or a refund since 2012. If you purchased a coupon voucher for golf at Red Bridge Golf Club, Olde Sycamore Golf Club, Monroe Country Club, and or Carolina Lakes Golf Club, and did not redeem your voucher, you may be legally entitled to receive consideration or to at least play. By law, Vouchers qualify as “gift certificates” because you did not choose a Tee Time, and it was for use for a future product or benefit.

NC Law:
N.C. Gen. Stat. §66-67.5
"Gift card" means a record evidencing a promise, made for monetary consideration, by a seller or! issuer that goods or services will be provided to the owner of the record to the value shown in the record.

N.C. Gen. Stat. §116B-53(c)(8)
Any gift certificate or electronic gift card bearing an expiration date and remaining unredeemed or dormant for more than three years after the gift certificate or electronic gift card was sold is deemed abandoned. The amount abandoned is deemed to be 60 percent of the unredeemed portion of the face value of the gift certificate or the electronic gift card.

N.C. Gen. Stat. §116B-54(b)
A gift certificate or electronic gift card is not abandoned property when the gift certificate or electronic gift card: (1) Conspicuously states that the gift certificate or electronic gift card does not expire; (2) Bears no expiration date; or (3) States that a date of expiration printed on the gift certificate or electronic gift card is not applicable ! in North Carolina

Federal Law:
In 2009, Congress passed the Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act, which set consumer protections for gift cards based on many state laws. The law provides that gift cards cannot expire within five years from the date they were activated and generally limits inactivity fee on gift cards except in certain circumstances, such as if there has been no transaction for at least 12 months. The federal law creates a floor for regulation and leaves room for state regulation on redeeming gift cards for cash and unclaimed property provisions.

What this means:
If you purchased a coupon on ClickitGolf.com within the last 5 years, you are entitled to the actual cash value of the voucher, even if it’s expired, per federal law. This also means that you are ONLY entitled to the actual cash value, not any additional discount or “upside”. Since the courses were paid for these vouchers, you may ! have a legal right to collect it back from them from 2012 forward. Clickit Golf, Inc has been attempting to correct this issue on your behalf and get permission for you to play, but we have been refused by these courses.

What you should do:
If you believe that you qualify, you should submit a support ticket to support@clickitgolf.com with your name, email, the date you purchased and the voucher/course that you were unable to redeem. You may qualify even if you were not refused and simply did not use the voucher. We will then contact you with the next steps.


Sincerely,
Clickit Golf Management
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Organization uses proceeds to help families and people with youth athletic costs due to the rising costs. Funds specifically benefit families that are involved in baseball (the future golf ball slicers) of the greater Charlotte area.

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ILL-INI at 2/28/17 12:18pm
Nah - I use golfnow.com. Much easier process and cheaper in most instances.
JoeJag at 2/13/17 12:56pm
Has anyone bought golf through clickit lately? First, the website is really cumbersome so its hard to find anything. And now it looks like there are very few courses listed. a guy there helped me out before with my credits, but now nobody responds to emails. Sad really, clickit was such a great and easy place to buy golf rounds.
NCGolfer at 2/7/17 10:40am
Played Lincoln again Sunday. Greens continue to be some of the best I've played if not the best. Tees and fairways dormant but in good shape for the winter. Not sure about previous poster concerning highways on a few holes. Would have to have a nasty slice to hit it there. All in all a good course, with friendly staff.
Almost blew somebody's windshield out. Check traffic before hitting on 10, 11 and 12.
I hate this golf course. Love playing there, but it kills me. Just cannot figure out the greens. Most places I'm a two-putt or better. Not here. And yeah, they're fast, firm- my preference. One par-3 on the front I swear the ball appeared to roll uphill.
Four doglegs are close to 90-degrees. Fun. Wide open fairways are sprinkled with semi-visible traps, plenty of water. No miss-hits allowed. Every shot has got to count. Most of the collars are a little chewed up. By the way, most greens are slightly elevated so you can forget about a bump and run. Short shots roll off to the side.
Cheap rates. Paid $14 to walk. Which was a challenge. Some pretty steep hills. r />Worth playing this course just for #18 which has the steepest approach shot of any course in the area. Granted, I was pretty ragged at this point. At 135 yards out I hit a five-wood, thinking "If I hit the club house maybe that'll teach 'em." Pin-high with a steep downhill roll I two-putted for par on a hole I assumed I'd double- or triple-bogey. I hate this course.
IM4DHERD at 1/31/17 12:08pm
Not lately, but have played it plenty of times in the winter and as always it has been in as good or better shape as anywhere in the area.
IM4DHERD at 1/31/17 9:51am
Since this is a board of public course players, I wonder if anyone uses a USGA Handicap system of some sort to get a card. There are a number out there, but I don't know the cost/benefit of one vs. another.

I have an excel spreadsheet with formulas that does the work for me, that I can it share with anyone interested, but wouldn't mind getting an official index if the price is right. I think there are online options where you can develop a group/club if a "B-Man" group/club might be of interest.
NCGolfer at 1/1/17 6:59pm
Anyone played Deerbrook lately? Haven't been there in awhile and was wondering about conditions.
NCGolfer at 1/1/17 2:57pm
Played at Lincoln CC last week. Course is in great shape. Greens are quick and roll true. Good test of golf. Definitely will be back.
Donmon at 12/28/16 10:27pm
Hi All, I'm going to be in Charlotte early January. Live in MA and hoping that golf will be an option while I'm there. Are courses open, do people play?
Thanks!
I've added this course so you can all now post official reviews!
5putts at 12/18/16 2:09pm
Anyone know of any Charlotte metro area courses open Christmas day?

While it’s nice to see an old course renovated, the front is no longer by any stretch a Donald Ross course. Two complaints: The bunker walls are ridiculously steep with grass so long it holds the ball, keeping it from rolling into the bunker and they are too steep to stand on forcing a shot from the sand at a ball above the waist! Second: the course is just too popular. One o’clock on a Thursday afternoon and it’s packed.
IM4DHERD at 10/12/16 7:12pm
More info. Not to oversell it, because the more of you who play it, the less the rest of us can, but it is pretty much the first new golf course in some time. Even though a number of the old holes are recognizable slopes have been evened out, trees removed, traps added, etc. Lot's of tall links-type grasses.

5 par 5s, 5 par 3s. 6800 from the blues, 6300 from the whites. Played with a freshman Catawba College golfer and a Sr. HS player who bombed 300 yard drives and hit a 5 wood 260 to a green, and they had a pretty tough time of it. Pretty difficult, my worst score in over a year.

These kids work at the club and say a number of new members (yes, it is now semi-private) are also members at Trump National. I now put this one up with any of my favorites and some of the highest rated courses on this site like Edgewater, Stonebridge, Glen Oaks, Deerbrook, and Red Bridge.
IM4DHERD at 10/12/16 9:55am
HAVE TO get this Club listed. Played yesterday. Played it many times in the past (Donald Ross front nine, very challenging back nine) but it closed for renovations for 22 months. Many of the holes are recognizable (#s 1,2,4 and 11-18 except for 13 which has been stretched into a par 5). Really like how the new holes on the front are configured, a stretch gives a Links style look. Best greens I have seen in forever, no doubt. Firm and FAST. Excellent practice area. Tee Boxes and fairways are in better shape than Glen Oaks, and that is saying something if you have ever played there. Probably should be expected after almost two years of work. Excellent work with the sand traps - placement and condition. Thick fluffy sand. Few holes have traps 50-100 yards from the green bu! t from the fairway looks to be greenside, something to get used to. My GPS is no good as this course hasn't been mapped. They need to put together a yardage book. Oh yeah, new carts too.
(Thought I would post this here since Duke is not in the pull-down list of the Reviews section)
Sure it’s a two hour drive from Charlotte to Durham and costs an arm and a leg for non-Duke people, but with all the rave reviews of the Duke University Golf Club, I felt compelled to use a vacation day (a Tuesday) to play a couple rounds. I walked the first round. At 8:45 I was the first golfer out. Extremely heavy dew made things pretty sloppy. (Not their fault, of course). Not for the faint of heart, Duke is a big kids’ course. Fairways are moderately to very wide with a lot of undulating. Plenty of water, creeks and rocks. There is knee-high grass or weeds in almost all the wooded areas, errant shots are as good as gone. A million huge, deep, well-maintained! fairway and greenside bunkers to tack on a few more strokes. The greens are some of the fastest, firmest, true-rolling and most challenging I’ve ever played. The starter’s advice to always hit it to “under the pin” was spot on as putts from pin-high invariably ran WAY past the cup. For walkers, the yardage markings stink. The GPS in the carts updates quickly and easily saved me a good five strokes when I drove the second round. Glad I went. I recommend Duke. Won’t be back. A pretty course, but no wow factor.
I haven't got a chance to play there yet, used to play this course a ton back before they shut it down, so looking forward to playing there soon, actually tried to get a tee time for this weekend and its booked up unless you can play after 1pm if you want a 4 some! I looked on GolfNow and seems like almost all early tee times are booked up b/w today 10/5 and next Wed 10/12. Im sure some of the newness is the reason for the bookings, but I heard they sold like 1000 memberships and for anyone that bought a 2017 membership they got the rest of 2016 for free, and they allow members to book 14 days in advance, so Im wondering if some of the early tee times are getting booked up by the influx of members! Just hoping it lives up to the hype, they used to have bent grass that always stayed in good shape%2! C but they installed Tiff Eagle greens, so they should be excellent year round and fast! Is there any way to add Mooresville along with Crowders Mountain to the list of Charlotte area courses for review?
The B-Man at 10/3/16 7:57pm
Just saw that Mooresville reopened after a 2 year, $5M+ renovation:

Town-owned Mooresville Golf Club reopening after $10M makeover

Anybody played it yet? Let me know if I should add it. I'm thinking yes.
I thought the same thing too, until I learned I was calling the previous owner who sold it months ago. I emailed to their support email and got some guy Bob to help me out. He explained the problem, and we got a fair resolution to the credits issue, so I'm fine now.Sounds like these guys were left with a pile of crap from the previous owner. I'll still use them since I play the courses they work with and can get good deals.
Has anyone gotten a response or update from the people at Clickit Golf on the status of the Clickit Cash? Their new website is up and running but when I log in, there is no cash credit there. My regular foursome stands to lose more than $1,000 in this mess. I've emailed and called 10+ times over the last month with no response from them.

I would strongly encourage everyone to boycott this website and pay courses directly. Their deals aren't even good anymore...keep the money in the golf courses not these peoples hands.
B-Man

First of all I enjoy your site.

Could you let me know and post where there is weekly skins game in the Charlotte area. I am familiar with the Golf week tour but really just trying to find different courses and a day of the week where golfers just show up to play skins. I also saw a guy post on GolfWrx site looking for skins game in Charlotte.

Lived all over the country and a format and lot of guys liked is where informally meet up to throw $10 or $20 into the pot . Sometimes they would divide half the pot and play two best balls out of foursome for a team bet against the other teams, in addition to skins. This allowed A,B,C,D to get in as well and guys liked it because the foursome played as a team except for individual! skins.

Anyway would just be happy to learn about some skins games in Charlotte area and would appreciate any B-man readers of your site with info on this as well.


Thanks

Bob
MadMax2013 at 8/29/16 9:48am
Heard thru the grapevine that Glen Oaks was having some problems with their greens. They are usually in great shape but you may want to check on this prior to booking. Cheers!
Based on the LCC review, played there Sat. AM. The course is in best shape I've seen in 5 yrs. Greens are pristine but slow-ish. Fairways are generally nice but the rough could use a trim and there are some nasty spots if you are wayward off the tee. All-in-all a decent track with some quirky holes that has made some serious strides to come back. Now if they could just level out the cart paths on the front 9...
DrSchteeve at 8/28/16 5:02pm
Look at Glen Oaks. WAYYYY better than Larkin. Skybrook conditions are reportedly terrible right now, even though it is a great layout.
peter iversen at 8/24/16 9:13pm
We have been invited as members for a day to irish creek and northstone. also playing rocky river. have played jones 5 or 6 times.....never jackson......is it a nice track?
like verdict ridge.....played 3 or 4 times....played red bridge once....a bit far this trip.
thought we might try skybrook....mixed reviews.....how is it?

love this site btw......nothing like this in nova scotia

ps....if anyone wants help with directions, lodging etc for cabot links or cliffs, im your guy
FYI - The Jones Course at Rock Barn is private to members only. The Tom Jackson Course, one of the best in the area, is still open for the rest of us.
BetterThanMost at 8/20/16 9:17pm
I'm not sure what is already on your itinerary, but you may want to check out Verdict Ridge, Rocky River, and River Oaks in addition to Larkin. Also, the renovated Mooresville Golf Course will be open by that time as well.
Jim at 8/20/16 8:38pm
Red Bridge is awesome! Great Golf shop and merchandise too.
peter at 8/18/16 6:47pm
i am bringing 12 or so fellow nova scotians to the charlotte area for our 14th consecutive canadian pantherfanz golf and football holiday. we have one more course to fill....mon oct31 preferably in the am. we are staying on lake norman in mooresville.....dont mind driving a bit (45 min MAX each way) and are leaning toward larkin....good reviews/price/location. any other strong suggestions....thanks
This is a review of Lincoln Country Club (LCC), in Lincolnton, NC. LCC is not available as selection on the "Post a Review" section of BMan's website. I'll try not to be too biased, as I am a member of this club. LCC had trouble over the years with maintaining bent greens in the summer, partly due to financial difficulties. LCC was bought by a local business man a few years ago, and my guess is that close to 2 million dollars has been infused into the club. This includes a new swimming pool, clubhouse upgrades, new maintainence equipment, enlarged parking areas, and the golf course itself.
The club was closed from mid May 2016 to the first part of July 2016 for a greens renovation project. The greens were re-sodded with Diamond Zoysia! grass, and the contours of some of the greens were upgraded to provide for more possible pin placements. This is the same type grass as that of the greens of Eagle Chase in Marshville, NC. All greens were enlarged some. These greens are very nice and are coming into their own. Their speed should increase throughout the coming months.
The fairways are full, with well defined rough. Most tee boxes are in very good shape, with a few needing some work. I dare say that the golf course is in the best shape that I have ever seen. I have lived on this course since 2001. LCC provides a good variety of holes not necessarily favoring a drawer or fader of the golf ball.
I suspect that most people reading this review are in the Charlotte area, but I would recommend checking out Lincoln Country Club if you get a chance. The food service is excellent, and many locals are choosing LCC for lunch and dinner.
Swifty at 8/3/16 9:20pm
I have taken lessons at Leatherman, with Chris, and really enjoyed it. The price is on par with other top end places like Dana Rader's School at Ballantyne, and both are great.
Jeff at 8/2/16 3:24pm
I have been going back and forth with them for nearly 2 months. I messaged them on Facebook numerous times and initially I would get a response with something to the effect of "We are going through an audit and it will be a few more days" I got this at least 3 times. Then the responses stopped for the past month. I then responded to someone on a thread on the facebook page who was having a similar issue and the thread was deleted.

The person who was having an issue responded to me and said they reactivated his balance. I then posted a message on their page detailing all of this and it was deleted later in the day. They are not responding to anything. Then later that day I received this email:

Update on ClickGolf.com Credits



As you may be aware, Clickitgolf.com was recently acquired out of pre-foreclosure. After the close of the transaction, certain liabilities were discovered that were not disclosed, including “Clickit Cash” balances. This was obviously a surprise to us, and we are working diligently to work this out.

On some accounts, there has been fraudulent activity and usage that was against he terms of use and service. This activity includes but is not limited to:
· Using Credits to purchase discounted gift certificates
· Using Credits to purchase credits
· Using credits to get further discounts and coupons
· Improper extension of 12 months expiration dates.

The laws are very clear on who is responsible for these balances, and the acquirer is NOT legally required to absorb these balances. It is our intentio! n to allow Clickit Golf members to realize actual cash value t! hat has been put into the system, but also credit back any fraudulent or improper usage of the system.

As a courtesy, over the next few months, we will allow users that have used the system honestly to use credits for rounds purchased (not coupons or special offers as the terms of service outlines). However, Clickit Cash credits will not be unlocked until this audit is complete, which could unfortunately take several more months. There will be no refunds, as the acquirer did not realize the cash put into the system in the first place.

The Eight Round Promo codes will be permitted to be used next week.

The Acquirer, Clickit Golf, Inc and the new management team, are as upset about this as you may be, and we are working to recover the cash balances on your behalf so you can use them. We appreciate your patience and apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.
%3! Cbr /> Best regards,

David Moore
President
Clickit Golf, Inc
The B-Man at 7/31/16 4:07pm
I contacted Chris Quinn at Clickit and he said this was a temporary problem as they upgrade their website checkout process. He's going to give me a further update this week, but I believe your gift certificates are safe.
NormInChar at 7/29/16 7:21pm
Did anyone else get screwed over by Click it golf ? Looks like they were sold and now they are not honoring credits on gift certificates and click it cash. Looks like I'm out 200 bucks from a gift certificate I received during the holidays. I really loved the site but may have to look else where when looking to book tee times just out of principle. Anyone else have suggestions on where to pick up best pricing on Charlotte area golf courses ?
Got this email from Emerald Lake today:

"To further enhance your experience while playing Emerald Lake Golf Club, we are now launching Operation P.O.P. (Pace Of Play). With this new program, we are committed to getting you around our golf course as quickly as possible. We understand that people do not have 5 hours to spend on a golf course nowadays, so Emerald Lake has paired up with the Carolina Golf Association to institute a 4 hour and 12 minute pace of play. Along with this new operation, we have also added the following measures to help "speed up play":
-We are cutting the rough half an inch to make it easier to find your ball.
-We are bringing food out more frequently to the course to cut down on your turn time.
-We hav! e hired rangers at problem areas to help spot errant golf shots."

I think this is great and much needed at Emerald Lake. My last several rounds there have been excruciatingly long.
Longiron84 at 5/22/16 1:42am
Has any taken a lesson at leatherman golf or the Charlotte impact performance center?
oneputt at 4/10/16 8:14am
I dont know if you have gotten the info you were looking for but I would strongly recommend that you look into Fort Mill golf club. They have a regular Tuesday and Thursday senior event. I play on Thursday and enjoy the golf and the companionship. Format for Thursday is a stroke game,net. They also pay out skins. Tuesday's format changes but is usually some form of a scramble. If you are looking for a game get in touch with me. I am 67, play to a 6.4 index and pretty much play all over.

Bill Riddle
billriddle4183@gmail.com
jscum13 at 3/23/16 10:23am
what's the best courses out in Gastonia off 85 South to play? Heading past that direction for the weekend, want to fit a round in. I'm a degenerate...I know.
TheClaw at 3/7/16 1:49pm
I would highly recommend trying out this

http://www.senioramateurgolftour.net/
Doug McDade at 3/6/16 10:00am
Looking for golf during the week. Shoot 82/92. Just turned 60. Preferably south of Charlotte and in SC. 704-287-3062.
Brian at 3/3/16 12:07pm
Looking to meet a friend between here and Winston Salem. Any recommendations? How is Irish Creek? Played Warrior a few years ago. Not sure what the latest is on it.

Thanks,
Brian
slowmofo at 1/15/16 11:51am
Not open yet, but this place is awesome

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/development/article40313238.html

Mike at 12/24/15 10:42am
Any courses open? I know there's a shotgun start somewhere. But like an idiot I deleted that email.
dyork at 12/21/15 4:06pm
Does anyone know of any indoor golf facilities with simulators in the area? Doesn't have to be anything official, could be a bar with a sim or an all out training facility.

Thanks in advance
Nate at 12/20/15 8:48pm
Regent Park hasn't been officially sold so they are still running as normal. Which yes, means the course is in eh shape.
dongtrgolfer at 11/16/15 4:04pm
Regent Park to close early next year. Played last week and could tell the maintenance just not occurring.
dirishoh at 10/13/15 7:31pm
thanks for the recommendations...once I decide you are more then welcome
dyork at 10/13/15 4:51pm
Hey, I just moved down here myself from Philly a few months ago...

I've played Renaissance Park Golf Course which isn't too far from where you're staying. Its no Glen Mills, but it has some very unique holes and a lot of potential, just that ownership doesn't seem to give a damn about maxing out its potential. This would be a good budget-friendly option.

Further south I've played Tega Cay, in South Carolina. Great course all around, easy front 9, challenging back 9. Course is always in great condition... problem is, its not exactly a quick cab ride away... but worth considering and probably best bang for your buck.

I haven't played the golf club at Ballantyne yet, but hear great things about it. The head pro there has been on the golf ch! annel a couple times. This is pricier, and again, a bit of a distance if you're travelling by Uber, but if you're looking for a luxury experience I would recommend it. Might even join you if I was invited ;-) (being my birthday weekend and all).

There's a little 9 hole course near your hotel on South Blvd... can't say I've heard much about it, or played there... but its 9 holes and owned by the city so, play at your own risk.

Hope this helps. Go Eagles!
dirishoh at 10/13/15 12:20pm
16 Phila. Eagle fans and golfers coming to Charlotte weekend of 10/23. Need recommendation on 2-3 must play courses while staying in Charlotte. Group handicaps range from 12- 25. Probably using Uber to get to and from courses so not too far from hotel on S. Tyron Street in Charlotte. Advice and recommendation greatly appreciated.
I would stay south in SC. Course choices are in order of my preference: Edgewater, Springfield, Tega Cay, Fort Mill, and Lancaster.
Mohan at 10/7/15 7:56pm
Hey what's up. I'm coming down to Charlotte with a few friends for a three day trip and we're trying to figure out the right area to stay. Looks like we can go north, east, and southwest (into SC). Any recommendations? We're looking for some fairly nice courses - nothing luxurious, we all shoot in the 80s and 90s.

Thanks for the help!
Eagle Chase near Marshville drains really well.Very Rare to have a cartpath only day.
Fort Mill is a course that drains well. Traps are also draining well.
With all the rain around, I would like to know which courses around here drain relatively well? Just in case the sun peeks out long enough to fool me into playing.
The B-Man at 9/9/15 10:53pm
As some of you know, one of my other hobbies besides golf has been running an NFL pool web site called The NFL Picks Page. I have been doing it for 20 seasons now believe it or not and the site has over 10,000 players that compete against each other and in their own private pools. If you are an NFL fan, check it out and see how you do picking the games each week:

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Bogey-Golf at 9/9/15 8:02pm
Anybody play Rocky River lately? Is it in good shape?
Stephanie at 9/3/15 3:04pm
Join us on October 12th- Raintree Country Club
http://www.joanelizabeth.org/register-for-the-next-event
Leednc at 9/3/15 12:25pm
I received 2 $80 Golfnow coupons at a charity event and would like to sell them. I would use them myself but they require you to use the whole $80 at one time and because of work I mostly play M-F by myself so I'd waste half of it.
I'd like to get $50-60 apiece for them. (Bman, if this isn't allowed on your site I apologize and please remove the post)
dongtrgolfer at 8/26/15 6:46pm
Aerated on Monday (8/24) and Tuesday (8/25).
There is a unique 2-man tourney at The Tradition on Saturday 8/29 called "Superintendent's Revenge". For this Captain's Choice event, they set up the pins in the toughest spots and put some tees in challenging places. The price ($65, with a $25 discount for members) includes golf, dinner and a shot at all the prizes. Shotgun start at 1pm.

Call or email the course to get signed up.
PT3040 at 8/18/15 10:54pm
This should be framed and posted on the first tee at every golf course!
The B-Man at 8/10/15 7:27pm
I took a lesson with Jay Reid at Birkdale 2 weeks ago and he helped solve a few nagging problems for me -- e.g. occasional shanks, no lob wedge confidence and poor chipping / bunker play -- literally in minutes. I took most of the hour practicing what he told me after a few minutes of video analysis and instruction. I was extremely happy with the results. He's partnered with me now to give anyone referred from my site $20 off a lesson or clinic -- just mention my web site when you make a reservation. Check out his site -- Jay Reid School of Golf -- and give him a shot at fixing your biggest swing problems. He's a PGA life member and taught at Dana Rader for 15 years.
The B-Man at 8/7/15 3:01pm
You're welcome, beginnergolfguy. I hope you enjoy learning and playing the game.

A few tips on courses -- I think Revolution Park, Charles T Myers, and Charlotte National are among the best courses for beginners. And better yet, if you want to start with an executive course (all par 3's), you can try Pebble Creek in Indian Trail. That's where I learned to play and built my confidence over 15 years ago.

Also, for the rest, I think this is a good topic with some good advice. Playing as a single is something I do quite a bit -- for mostly personal schedule reasons. Either it's last minute and I can't find a partner before I get to the course or I've got only so much time to play and need to play fast. In those cases, it's ve! ry appropriate to tell the pro shop or starter that you'd like to play alone or have a time constraint. You might ask to start on the back nine or another hole where they have a gap. You just have to keep in mind what 5putts said and realize that they may not be able to accommodate you -- since it could mess up pace of play for their other guests. In these situations, you just have to accept what they offer and not take it personally if they decline. Also know that it might change during the round. You may catch up to a 2-some or threesome that is stacked behind several full groups. In that case, it makes sense for you to join that group rather than keep pushing up against them every hole -- because you're not going to play through that many groups. So the biggest advice if you want to play as a single is be flexible.
beginnergolfguy at 8/6/15 9:31pm
I also want to thank you for your time and input. I am certainly going to remember these things. I am sure it will take time to learn the things...but I am excited and all in !
Have a great weekend ! And thanks to you Bman, I enjoy this site !
Getting paired up is something you have to get used to. But don't feel self conscious about your game, honestly no-one really cares about anyone else's game as it is hard enough focusing on their own games. But the things people do care about are etiquette and pace of play. Both are huge. Learn the etiquette, don't stand in people's line of sight, don't walk on their line, rake bunkers, etc. Learn what READY GOLF is and play it all times. Be aware when it is your turn to hit and be ready, don't stand there fiddling with your glove and trying to find a yardage while people are waiting for you. Do that before it is your turn while other people are hitting. Also don't get back to the cart, re-arrange your clubs, sort out scores, etc. while parked next to the green, and people are waiting back in t! he fairway. Jump in the cart, putter or driver in hand, and put them away at the next stop. Always be aware or etiquette and pace of play and people will love playing with you.
beginnergolfguy at 8/6/15 11:22am
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my post. I had no idea about the business side...it makes sense. I will now take your advice and not worry about being paired. I have found as I have started this game,that golfers are very nice people...so thanks again and have a great weekend !!
5putts at 8/6/15 9:05am
The only way is to arrive uber early or well into twilight like 4pm-ish. Even then its going to be iffy. The golf course business model is such that 4 players at 8 minute intervals is optimal for them to maximize their margin. They will happily take singles, two & threesomes but that is not their preferred capacity management scheme; especially during prime time :)

That being said, I've met literally 1000's of people over the years playing golf. Most of the are pretty decent people (they are golfers after all) although I don't really engage in a lot of small talk. You do run across the occasional Chatty Cathy or Johnny Miller wannabe (who painfully describes what happened on every single shot and comments on yours as a bonus) but mostly its ok.

I understand wanti! ng to play alone as I enjoy that myself too. To me though, its more about the tempo of the game as opposed to the other people. So, given the nature of the game, my advice is not worry about being paired up and focus on what YOU are doing. Pretty soon the performance anxiety aspect will fade away entirely and you might meet some nice folks (after all... its only a 4 hour relationship).
beginnergolfguy at 8/5/15 7:07pm
Hi,I am a beginner and have had lessons, etc. and am ready to hit the course again. My issue is after working and the daily grind,I just want to play 18 alone and relax . The times I have played, I have been paired up which I did not enjoy. Can someone give me the protocol on this issue? when I arrive at the course do I tell the person at the desk I want to play golf alone? Will I get a strange look? I think I will enjoy this game...but I want it to be my escape. Thanks !
Joe at 8/4/15 8:51am
Well this is slightly embarrassing, but the third guy in our group actually grabbed my wedge on the last hole and after shaking hands on completion of the round he forgot to hand it back to me. Called me today to let me know he had it.

Thanks for the advice on the golf club labels, I may look in to it or buy it for a friend as a gag gift since he tends to lose clubs a lot. It doesn't ensure you'll get the club back but if there are good Samaritans out there, which golf tends to have, you might have a chance.
HittOD at 8/4/15 12:49am
I'm sorry to hear that the lost club has not been found yet. I know that I have in 40 years of golf, on a couple of occasions found clubs on the course, put them in my bag to turn in later only to realize that the club was still in my bag when I got home. I eventually turned the clubs in, but this surely caused some angst for those golfers with the lost club. To that end, I have for some years now been doing something that gives me some peace of mind in regards to leaving one of my golf clubs on the course. There are sites online where one can order golf club labels on which one can put their name, address, cell #, etc. I put one on each club in my bag. I know this doesn't guarantee the return, but I believe it makes it more likely, and in a more timely manner. I know that if the clubs that! I forgot to turn in had the label, I would have called the person to let them know that I had their club. I just did an internet search for "Golf Club Labels", and found a couple of sites that will provide between 16 to 20 labels for about $7 with no shipping. This of course won't help you find this club (assuming you had no label on it), but may be useful in the future, and to those reading this message board. I welcome any pro or con comments about this posting.
jscum13 at 8/3/15 11:01pm
long shot here but worth a shot with the amount of local traffic bman's site gets...I left a PW - or so I think - on the 18th green of Monroe Country Club on Saturday 08.01.15. It's a taylormade rocket bladez PW custom projectx shaft 5.5 flighted gwith a red and black golf pride grip. Since the finders of the club didn't turn it in, if anyone sees this club online somewhere please contact me. It's a costly replacement so I'm just hoping for a prayer here. Thanks
HateSlowPlay at 7/31/15 2:22pm
Local news story about the course re-opening

http://www.gastongazette.com/article/20150509/News/305099965
HateSlowPlay at 7/31/15 2:21pm
Cramer mtn recently re-opened as a private course. The homeowners stepped in and poured a lot of money into it to bring it back, including new greens, and from what I hear it is in fantastic shape now.

Only downside is that it is private/members only I believe.
Ryan Brickley at 7/31/15 1:53pm
The fairways that were sprigged with new grass have now been mowed and are OPEN for play. All holes are back to their regular length, except 2 and 6 which being played from the forward tees.
The greens are in GREAT shape and rolling a consistent 10 on the stimpmeter.
Thanks for everyone's patience as we have restored Rocky River to the condition you have come to expect.
Ryan Brickley
PGA Director of Golf
IM4DHERD at 7/31/15 11:50am
Just called them...They went back to private. I played there in 2010 when they had opened to the public. End of saga.
I believe Cramer Mountain is closed.

But I am interested in comments about Crowder's Mountain. I've been thinking about trying it out and adding it here for a while.
If anyone can edit it for me, I'd appreciate it.
IM4DHERD at 7/31/15 9:32am
Anyone play Crowder Mountain lately? 20+ years ago, when it was private, I played it and was VERY impressed. A real gem...Mountain golf just outside of Charlotte (near Belmont, before Gastonia). Opened to the public a few years ago, so I headed down, but was disappointed in the conditions, cart paths, markers, etc. Still a very funky layout with a lot of elevation changes. Have seen some Golfnow and Google reviews from the past year or two saying it's in good shape. Anyone know if they've turned it around?
Jamie at 7/27/15 7:53am
Played RP on 7/25. Still in pretty good shape except for the bunkers, which have the same problem as a lot of local courses. Over time, they lose sand. If the sand is not replaced, you end up with a very thin layer of sand over very hard, compacted earth. No problem as far as fairway bunkers are concerned, but a big problem in greenside bunkers. A very thin layer of sand will not allow the club head to pass under the ball, so you either try to intentionally hit it thin, or you will chunk it five feet. Someone (I assume an employee) at the clubhouse told my friend in our foursome to play outside the bunkers because of deferred maintenance - that is the first time I have ever heard that. Hopefully they can get this issue resolved.

Greens a little beaten up but putted fairly well. I probably fixed! 100 ball marks other than my own. One other issue still persisting is lack of water stations. Bring a lot of water with you.
JAG at 7/24/15 6:19pm
Thanks. I'll check them out. Turns out we're staying and play two days now.
Thanks for the recommendations.
Kevin B at 7/23/15 2:40pm
Will be there for October car race. Have 9 guys who play golf need suggestion.
My suggestions to stay near I-77:

Springfield
Fort Mill
Tega Cay
Edgewater

Check the map and then the reviews to get more details.
Found this statement from Rocky River today on efforts to repair the winter kill damage to their fairways:

Like many courses in North Carolina this past winter, Rocky River Golf Club unfortunately experienced some winter kill of Bermuda grass in fairways and teeing areas. Some courses in Greensboro and Raleigh have had to close completely due to the damage incurred, but in Concord the impact was not quite as bad.

Rocky River has re-sprigged fairway areas on 8 holes and expects to have all areas completely back by Mid-August. The course REMAINS OPEN though, with several holes on the front 9 shortened to route play around the newly repaired areas. The 9 has been reduced to a Par of 31, and is playing much shorter which has been very popular! for juniors and senior players!

We are offering reduced rates for the entire month of July to compensate for the repaired areas. We apologize for the temporary situation but look forward to when it's back to 100% later this summer and fall.

Thank you for your patience and continued support of the club!
JAG at 7/13/15 6:27pm
I'll be in Charlotte inform1-2 days in mid August. I've never played golf in Charlotte before so I'm hoping for some advice. Anything in great shape?
We'll be coming down 77 so kinda close to highway would be great. Thanks for the help.
dongtrgolfer at 7/6/15 8:01pm
I have played The Divide a few times over the past few months and it is much improved. The greens are much better (but slow). Fairways are ok but some places thin. Tee boxes were pretty chewed up on a lot of holes. Bunkers are definitely improved. Pro shop and staff much improved (now that they are being paid). I would still put Charlotte National and Emerald Lake above it but The Divide has closed some of the gap and given the layout (which I like) it is back on my play list.
Any of the courses you listed have nice practice greens and it is free to putt! Chipping areas is a little more complicated. None are ideal but Springfield and Fort Mill are ok. Again, free to chip! If you are just banging balls I would suggest one of the places on South Blvd south of I-485. There are two places and they give you about 100 balls for $10 9also have cards that save $$), but there putting/chipping areas not that great.

Of the four you listed I would say none are overly "beginner" friendly. All have challenges and can cost a lot depending on what day of the week you play and your age. I would check out some of the Radcliffe courses. They are not as nice but can get some good deals at certain times and are pretty beginner friendly (that is where I start! ed). I would also suggest Charlotte National. Very wide open and good for beginners if you play the right tee (gold). Charlotte National is much better than Radcliffe courses, has some reasonable rates in the afternoons, and has friendly staff and golfers who don't mind playing with beginners.

Finally, your first step should be to find a good pro to give you lessons. It will eliminate a lot of the upfront frustration and make the game a whole lot better. don't invest in nice, shiny clubs, invest in lessons!
Mike at 7/6/15 1:15pm
Hello,

I wanted to know about some of the clubs around me, specifically about practice facilities / range / chipping and putting areas. I also wanted to know about cost for the range. What courses would you list as beginner friendly in the area? A search of what is by me (excluding Ballantyne CC as it is $$$): Regent Park, Springfield, Carolina Lakes, Fort Mill. Can you suggest any of these?

Thanks,
Mike
www.mountmitchellgolf.com
My golf buddy and I found this great stay and play package in Carolina Golf Journal and decided to give it a try. 2 rounds of golf, 1 night stay in the Fairway Villa Condos and $15 credit towards dinner at the clubhouse restaurant for $99 (double occupancy). What an awesome deal. This was a 2 1/2 drive from the house and well worth it. It is wall to wall bent grass (greens,fairways,tees). It is also a CART PATH ONLY course. The course is very flat minus 2 or 3 holes and tucked in the Toe River Valley. The mountain views were spectacular and kept the rain away for our stay. The clubhouse staff were very nice and let us check in early and tee off an hour before our tee time since everyone was cancelling due to pending rain (it didn't). Condo was dated but ! had everything we needed (plus a front row view of the 8th fairway and the mountains in the background). Dinner was a little expensive since there is only 1 other restaurant next door to compete but the rib eye was worth the money.

Greens A+ no issues what so ever.
Fairways B+ some thin spots here and there but overall good no roll
Rough A+ fair and challenging
Bunkers B had some weeds in them but were soft and playable
Tees A+ not one chewed up
Overall a great experience. I had some reservations going into this after reading reviews from golfnow and tripadvisor but I'm glad we went. Just to warn you that the course does stay damp so don't expect to much roll. It is a shot makers course. The temp was also perfect.

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